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Microsoft Needs Windows Lite, No telemetry, no spying, no ads, no AI, no .NET, to retain gamers and developers (philipbohun.com)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Microsoft is losing Builders fast. They're switching to MacOS and Linux. The biggest pull keeping people on Windows, outside of shear inertia, is content creation and gaming. However, even these are falling to Linux.

Without Builders, you don't have software, and without software, you don't have users. This is why Microsoft needs Windows Lite.

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[–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

It used to be VB.net and other such stuff. It WAS pretty terrible. Ive had to pick apart some pretty horrendous applications. Then Mono/C# popped up and a lot of community effort went into making everything better. It helps that .net stole a LOT of functionality from Rails/Django/etc... and make it much easier for devs to do actual work on it.

The problem is when we talk about .net it could be a huge combo of tech from the last 10+ years. The newest iteration is fine. Its fast at least with C#.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Everything from .NET Core onwards has been a blast to work with in my opinion. And it got even better when .NET 8 came out and I've genuinely been excited for every major release since.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    So a Microsoft product got good after it became open source?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Yep, it's arguably the best thing they've done and still currently do I'm actually surprised the core .NET team haven't been corrupted yet. I always find it funny that all of the bigger guys that show off the new features and improvements in their preview showcases never use windows.

    Sadly the Visual Studio and VS Code team seem to have been corrupted though because 95% of all new features for those always seem to be centered around AI. I use Rider personally now, and Im looking forward to eventually moving over to that for work at some point too.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I personally like C# and NOT .net...but im a weirdo.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm curious, how do you go about using C# without .NET?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Its been a couple of years. Is mono still a thing? Or was it eaten up by .net core? If its still a thing than Mono. We did that for a couple of one off apps back in the day.

    If I had to redo it, i would probably just use core on Linux and call it a day. Maintainability is better than purism anyways. Again all my opinions.

    Actually if you want my full opinion, I would probably use python to create a proof of concept real quick...then have it remade if it needs to be faster in go/rust/whatever the rest of the team knows :)

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I think mono may still exist somewhat, but .NET Core took it as a foundation and built on top of it in the best way possible. I do hobby dev with .NET on Linux but sadly still beholden by Windows for work for the time being.

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