โฒ 389 โผ Google announced a new requirement: starting September 2026, every Android app developer must register centrally with Google before their software can be installed on any device. (i.redd.it) submitted 4 months ago by ooli3@sopuli.xyz to c/FightForPrivacy@sopuli.xyz 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments ๐ก 2 1
[โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (7 children) can i disable all google apps to escape this apocalypse? permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [โ] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) You would need an unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM for that. I suspect that completely disabling google services on stock ROM is either not possible or will brick your device. Also Google does provide an opt-out mechanism, for now. The restrictions will likely tighten in the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Not. Android 12 still lets me adb pm uninstall or pm disable. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] black0ut@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (4 children) Maybe I'm making it up, but I seem to recall that disabling Google Play Services was enough. But that is easier said than done. Google did a Microsoft with internet explorer, and basically made the whole OS depend on Play Services. A lot of stuff won't work if you disable them, and some of it is unfixable on stock android. You basically need a custom ROM to get away with it, and even then, it has some problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (3 children) I don't use google apps, dialers, gps, browser - most of things are from fdroid, so i believe i can live without evilgoogle crap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] black0ut@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The thing is, Google Play Services is integrated into the OS. Like Microsoft back then, they've made it so that the OS doesn't work properly without it. For example, notifications won't work. Some background tasks will stop. The battery will last less time. You won't be able to log in to any google app, and some third party ones won't let you log in either. Forget about banking apps. The list keeps going... I really don't know how Google is allowed to do all this after Microsoft got (rightfully) destroyed in court for doing the same with Internet Explorer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] BrickEater@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I de-googled my phone and the battery lasts 2 days now. Just throw MicroG or GAPS on a lineage android and you're golden. took me a day to do my gf and Is phones. Google can eat a dick. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago With evilgoogle services shut down battery lasts longer. Notifications only from non google phone, sms and email app. My bank lets me use online without app. So while you are right for most people - in my case i not lose no important thing. I even still on android 12 phone just to be sure i can disable assistant and avoid gemini. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) You would need an unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM for that. I suspect that completely disabling google services on stock ROM is either not possible or will brick your device. Also Google does provide an opt-out mechanism, for now. The restrictions will likely tighten in the future. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Not. Android 12 still lets me adb pm uninstall or pm disable. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago Not. Android 12 still lets me adb pm uninstall or pm disable. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] black0ut@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (4 children) Maybe I'm making it up, but I seem to recall that disabling Google Play Services was enough. But that is easier said than done. Google did a Microsoft with internet explorer, and basically made the whole OS depend on Play Services. A lot of stuff won't work if you disable them, and some of it is unfixable on stock android. You basically need a custom ROM to get away with it, and even then, it has some problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (3 children) I don't use google apps, dialers, gps, browser - most of things are from fdroid, so i believe i can live without evilgoogle crap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] black0ut@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The thing is, Google Play Services is integrated into the OS. Like Microsoft back then, they've made it so that the OS doesn't work properly without it. For example, notifications won't work. Some background tasks will stop. The battery will last less time. You won't be able to log in to any google app, and some third party ones won't let you log in either. Forget about banking apps. The list keeps going... I really don't know how Google is allowed to do all this after Microsoft got (rightfully) destroyed in court for doing the same with Internet Explorer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] BrickEater@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I de-googled my phone and the battery lasts 2 days now. Just throw MicroG or GAPS on a lineage android and you're golden. took me a day to do my gf and Is phones. Google can eat a dick. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago With evilgoogle services shut down battery lasts longer. Notifications only from non google phone, sms and email app. My bank lets me use online without app. So while you are right for most people - in my case i not lose no important thing. I even still on android 12 phone just to be sure i can disable assistant and avoid gemini. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (3 children) I don't use google apps, dialers, gps, browser - most of things are from fdroid, so i believe i can live without evilgoogle crap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] black0ut@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The thing is, Google Play Services is integrated into the OS. Like Microsoft back then, they've made it so that the OS doesn't work properly without it. For example, notifications won't work. Some background tasks will stop. The battery will last less time. You won't be able to log in to any google app, and some third party ones won't let you log in either. Forget about banking apps. The list keeps going... I really don't know how Google is allowed to do all this after Microsoft got (rightfully) destroyed in court for doing the same with Internet Explorer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] BrickEater@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I de-googled my phone and the battery lasts 2 days now. Just throw MicroG or GAPS on a lineage android and you're golden. took me a day to do my gf and Is phones. Google can eat a dick. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago With evilgoogle services shut down battery lasts longer. Notifications only from non google phone, sms and email app. My bank lets me use online without app. So while you are right for most people - in my case i not lose no important thing. I even still on android 12 phone just to be sure i can disable assistant and avoid gemini. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] black0ut@pawb.social 11 points 4 months ago (2 children) The thing is, Google Play Services is integrated into the OS. Like Microsoft back then, they've made it so that the OS doesn't work properly without it. For example, notifications won't work. Some background tasks will stop. The battery will last less time. You won't be able to log in to any google app, and some third party ones won't let you log in either. Forget about banking apps. The list keeps going... I really don't know how Google is allowed to do all this after Microsoft got (rightfully) destroyed in court for doing the same with Internet Explorer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] BrickEater@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I de-googled my phone and the battery lasts 2 days now. Just throw MicroG or GAPS on a lineage android and you're golden. took me a day to do my gf and Is phones. Google can eat a dick. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago With evilgoogle services shut down battery lasts longer. Notifications only from non google phone, sms and email app. My bank lets me use online without app. So while you are right for most people - in my case i not lose no important thing. I even still on android 12 phone just to be sure i can disable assistant and avoid gemini. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] BrickEater@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago I de-googled my phone and the battery lasts 2 days now. Just throw MicroG or GAPS on a lineage android and you're golden. took me a day to do my gf and Is phones. Google can eat a dick. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] mcSlibinas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago With evilgoogle services shut down battery lasts longer. Notifications only from non google phone, sms and email app. My bank lets me use online without app. So while you are right for most people - in my case i not lose no important thing. I even still on android 12 phone just to be sure i can disable assistant and avoid gemini. permalink fedilink source parent