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Wish in one hand (lemmy.world)
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[–] 5 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

I'm not even against some people having a little more or less. Some people genuinely like subsistence farming and singing in the town choir and chilling in the woods. Some people like gaming computers or kayaks or rock climbing. Some people like cocaine, or rockets, or super computers. That's all fine. You don't need to push a rocket powered super computing gaming yacht on the peasantry fetishist. They don't want that and will not appreciate you for it.

Its the hoarding and bullshit I can't with. The inefficiency. The having so much at the expense of more existing. The militarized bullshit to keep the inequalities and inefficiencies. The arrangement of the entire world around them.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (2 children)

    No real notes except I kinda dream of combining your first two examples into one lifestyle, I dunno if that's even really a thing but...

    ...I mean, also, like, if you can run fiber optic cables along the ocean floor, you should be able to run them into the woods.

    I dunno. An honest simple life aligned with nature and enjoying computers should be a thing. Nat Geo explorers and people that run solar powered websites off of Pis and stuff know what I'm talking about lol.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    I've gamed on a secret weed farm deeeep in the woods. The networking is a little iffy sometimes, but even with our current infrastructure it can be done. We had an electric water heater, TV, full kitchen, and game consoles, half an hour's hard hike and half an hour's drive to the general store in summer (more complex in winter), a couple hours to the nearest town. Latency spikes happened, weather happened, but the internet was there. We never had to go out for fruit or veggies, but didn't grow our own grains/carbs, and didn't have any meat/dairy animals.

    You don't need to live by a script. Figure out the life you want. As long as it doesn't fuck with anyone else, you deserve it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    For sure money has departed from actual real world value essentially from the moment it was created and people ought to be compensated for the value they actually create and of course taxed for the value they take from society. It's kinda the same issue with climate change, if things actually cost what they truly cost the problem would fix itself over night. The issue is we externalize the cost to the environment, to the poor, and to our future so we don't have to pay it today.

    With actually correct value being represented by money and goods and services actually having their true cost that would mostly solve everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    'Compensated'.

    What if their work was its own reward? Like if you want a smart grid, you build one, or check in with the people building one and ask how to help, and if private property is abolished, you just build shit for everybody, or everybody it's convenient to build for? So you can't really hoard shit. You can only inspire and build for everyone?

    Or if you want more houses because you're sick of sleeping outside or hate the streets being full of tents or want your dumbass 23 year old to move out finally please, you go learn about construction, or hook up with your local construction club/crew? If nobody owns stuff that isn't meaningfully personally theirs, it gets much easier to do shit.

    The lady who runs the best construction crew and her friend who designs the most beautiful houses still get prestige for being standouts, they still get to feel awesome, just like the guy who throws those amazing parties, but there's not this huge bundled abstraction layer of bullshit.

    Its not like people want to do nothing, unless they're totally crushed by capitalism. Maybe the ways we do things change. We build more safely (or way less safely, hell yeah! Watch this!), or work shorter hours, or there's an air separated musicians cubicle in operating rooms for live dramatizations, it whatever sensible cool or insane shit we decide to do. You can't really argue we would make worse decisions than the ones currently governing us.

    You go through a lot of insane implausible contrivances to keep this 'money' system you admit has basically never not been extremely fucked up.

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