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A private bill to give 16-year olds the vote is back in Parliament (piefed.ca)
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https://www.parl.ca/documentviewer/en/44-1/bill/C-210/first-reading

Elections Canada research shows most adult voters oppose the measure: "Seven in ten respondents, 72 percent, disagreed."

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[–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So only legally emancipated children that also have jobs should be allowed to vote? That is a small and unusual subset of children.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    well it was asked. also no not “that also” it was “or”.

    and it wasn’t “that have jobs” it was “and are responsible for their own finances.” A manager who manages a child actor is, provably also an adult.

    this is about two things:

    a person’s relationship to capital and wage; a person’s relationship to the source of a state’s income. (taxes)

    if a state can take taxes it can provide suffrage.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lots and lots of people- from tourists to 10 year old kids to illegal immigrants- pay taxes and do not receive suffrage. I don't know if you are actually arguing that everyone who pays taxes should be able to vote or just playing devils advocate.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    I am 100%* arguing that if someone pays tax they should be allowed to vote. Unironically. Completely. Does this mean that if tourists need to be excluded, ok. One can do so by many means: citizenship requirements or even simpler, a process in which taxes are not charged to tourists similar to that duty free concept.

    On the subject of illegal immigrants - Citizenship should be a 15 minute process, if we’re going to assume nations should exist at all. If nations “must” exist and therefore “must” tax, the moment an immigrant pays is the moment they become a citizen.

    *: (you’re talking with an anarchist here; if nations must exist and must extract taxes… Then the replies hold to that mindset. I personally do not think they should exist. But they do [except israel]. So that’s the scope of these replies.)

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