baines comments on Oracle sues Wisconsin utility regulators over financial requirements for data centers

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe -4 points 4 months ago (13 children)

i don’t care about fucking semantics, life must be complicated for you if you are this hung up on literals

it’s amazing you can be so close as to use cars and highways and yet be so damn blind to history and the parallel implications

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[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

i don’t care about fucking semantics

It's not semantics you fucking clod. They just gave an incredibly apt analogy in an attempt to explain how things actually work but you continue on with your ass-sourced "70% of the intetz iz botz hurr durr" shit without even attempting to understand why you're dead fucking wrong.

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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe -1 points 4 months ago

for a fucking 5 year old lmao

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

It’s not semantics, the context of this entire thread is about the difference in ecological impact of two entirely different and unrelated technologies. This isn’t a philosophical debate. Life must be so difficult for you if you can’t ever see the forest for the trees because you can’t see things as they are.

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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe -1 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

unrelated lol

this is the hang up

how have the lot of you not been paying attention to what is going on with the internet?

even conservative reports pre ai put the bot traffic at over half the total data volume, trying to pretend you can divorce the internet from ai is some silly head in sand shit

there is no ai without the internet, where is the data being scraped from?

why are small time sites choking with spider traffic?

we can’t use the internet without tripping over ai

all these data centers are being built in butt fuck nowhere, this only works with internet infrastructure to carry data to population centers, no one is investing billions for local kansas access for fuck sake

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're putting a lot of effort into deflecting from the problem. You're pretending to be upset about bot traffic, but instead of saying "we need to regulate AI or put limits on its development or halt all future AI builds or shut down the ones that already exist" you're just doubling down that "No, the internet is the problem. Kill the internet. Pay no attention to the AI datacenters behind the curtain, just shut down the internet."

It's like a doctor says "You have an infection" so the patient asks if the doctor is going to give him antibiotics to kill the infection and the doctor goes "NO, DUMBASS! DID YOU NOT HEAR ME? YOU HAVE AN INFECTION. BACTERIA IS TRAVELING THROUGH YOUR BLOODSTREAM. WE ARE GOING TO EUTHANIZE YOU! GOD, HOW STUPID ARE YOU? CAN YOU NOT SEE THE REALITY THAT THERE IS BACTERIA IN YOUR BODY AND WE MUST PUT YOU DOWN???? I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT SEMANTICS!!!!!"

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[–] baines@lemmy.cafe -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

it’s not happening, the internet as we grew up with it is dead, you and me are not worth shit compared to the money being spent daily on ai

it’s just more of the same shit situation with computer ram

how much of the US gdp is nvda again?

stop putting arguments in mouth, i’m not happy about it but i can see the reality on the wall

the internet is a means for ai, everything else is entirely secondary for the last 3 years easily

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 4 months ago

More red herrings from you that I'm not going to engage with. You can't just throw out "Oh yeah? Well cancer is bad, gotcha!" when you're losing an argument about health insurance.

I'm not putting any arguments in your mouth. This is how this chain started:

You wonder, do data centers do any good at all? Some using tons of pure drinkable water is also bad.

Datacenters? Yes, to an extent. They enable things like the modern internet, public goods like Wikipedia, etc.

AI datacenters? No.

70% of the modern internet is bots botting for bots

i’ll take the drinking water

Someone literally pointed out the nuance of the situation, that not all datacenters are for AI and some provide public goods that we all rely on. And you were basically like "No, the internet is full of bots. Shut it all down!"

No one here is arguing for AI datacenters. We're saying not all datacenters are AI, and that's factually true but you can't seem to get it through your head.

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