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A must watch! Edward Snowden Reveals How They Spy on You. "2016 conversation." (www.youtube.com)
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"Mass surveillance had never stopped a single terrorist attack in more than 10 years of operation, in the United States." They even view your porn habits... This was from 2016, think how advanced things are now within the 10 years after this.

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[–] -1 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Nah, this just a ml 'the West bad' cross-post with a 10-year old content. Seems the tankies run out of stuff.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    @cm0002@infosec.pub’s a tankie now‽

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    They are cross-posting the biggest bs from ml, and this is another example for this.

    Such post are apparently not news, the only intention is portraying the West as bad, and then portray China as the only alternative.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    lemmy.ml is a general instance, the instance for MLs is lemmygrad.

    I understand if you're frustrated about political stuff here, unfortunately things like privacy are extremely tied to politics and we can't avoid that connection unless we avoid talking about privacy. And the first step to push back against surveillance is to be informed.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    I am not frustrated about political stuff, it's just that this is 10 years old. We all know this already.

    And lemmy/.ml maybe be 'softer' the the grads and bears, but you are also banned there if you criticize China. The mods there pursue the same pro-China, anti-democratic propaganda.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    I crosspost all good non-tankie content

    This post is a privacy problem that is absolutely pervasive in all dystopian authoritarian or authoritarian-trending states to include China, Russia, US, NK, UK and now worrisomely the broader EU

    Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

    I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to help vitilize non-.ml comms and make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don't want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some active niche comms.

    Megathread on the issue

    Some highlights from the link:

    Dessalines, head .ml admin, lead Lemmy dev actively spreading genocide denialism https://sh.itjust.works/post/61371958

    .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

    "If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

    "Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

    "See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

    "NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

    General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

    And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can't even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

    I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

    On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like "Lemmy? Isn't that the place with a bunch of tankies?" Or "Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left". The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Everyone knows that already. This is 10 years old. If we all post things that old because they're "absolutely pervasive" then Lemmy is a history archive or something.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago

    There's plenty of room on the Threadiverse for both new and historical posts. Especially historical posts that are still relevant today.

    And all the apparatuses discussed in the video are all not just likely still in operation, but expanded upon AND currently under the control of one of the most authoritarian presidents in US history. It's more relevant now then ever before and worthy of continued discussion

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