I posted a similar topic early today but worded it wrong that was my mistake. I'm genuinely curious how people have reached to this point and what they hope to achieve after. I understand getting rid of AI/LLM is the obvious one. What do you think we should do to get to that goal or your personal goal.

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Again, while you're right that the industry tried to hide it and use PR to obscure it. The fact that plastics weren't being recycled wasn't hidden information, it was publicly visible to anyone who read up on it. This is an education and propaganda issue.

2009 Study saying the same thing. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/rstb/article-abstract/364/1526/2115/20977/Plastics-recycling-challenges-and-opportunities?redirectedFrom=fulltext

2001 OECD Guidance that also identified that a lot of stuff didn't get recycled, including plastics. https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/publications/reports/2001/03/extended-producer-responsibility_g1gh2874/9789264189867-en.pdf

Which itself refences studies done in the 90s and 80s about this same topic.

1993 https://one.oecd.org/document/OCDE/GD(93)194/en/pdf Table 1 in that document shows that less than 5% of plastics are being recycled.

However, you've sidetracked the conversation. The plastics industry DID lie, as have many other industries before it (Tobacco, Pesticides, Meat production, etc) however, I don't see how that immediately makes AI bad. If every industry is bad, then why are we going after such a small industry instead of the existing giant ones?

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