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Is anyone afraid of our future? (lemmy.world)
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[–] 88 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Climate change. Shit is going to get super real in the next 20 years. Like half the planet starving real.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Climate Change is only one aspect of the real problem. Ecological overshoot is probably a better term, but terms like polycrisis and metacrisis have been tossed around.

    The Stockholm Resilience Centre's Planetary Boundaries is probably one of the best synthesis of it.

    It's bad, it's getting worse. And it's a motivator behind a lot of the bullshit going on in the world. Russia wants Ukraine for its breadbasket. US wants to end democracy because they don't believe it will survive what's coming.

    Everyone that matters (Governments and Militaries) knows what's going on, and the level of public debate is definitely downplaying things to not scare the masses. Meanwhile, we speedrun right into it.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Maybe. It doesn't make much sense that the same US government Republicans are preparing for the worst that could have just prevented it. Staying under 2C wasn't that difficult. The hardest part was getting China to go along, and that's gone reasonably.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

    Staying under 2C wasn't that difficult.

    Respectfully disagree. Ending fossil fuels is not easy. Technically, politically and economically.

    The hardest part was getting China to go along, and that's gone reasonably.

    ..China, India, Russia, Japan, Europe, Canada, the middle east, Australia...

    No one came close. China' progress is significant and in some ways commendable, matched only by their failures.

    https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/data-tools/energy-statistics-data-browser?country=CHINAREG&fuel=Energy+supply&indicator=TESbySource

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    I don't think we'd have to fully end fossil fuels to stay under 2C. I think getting rid of them in power plants, road vehicles, and ocean vessels would have been enough.

    And that probably would have taken less resources than these data center rollouts.

    We could have kept oil in airlines and military.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    That would just have slowed it down not stopped it. Fossil fuels must end, one way, or as it seems to be the case, the other.

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