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If Phones Are Killing Pedestrians, Why Is It Only Happening in America? (www.thedrive.com)
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[–] 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

That was a super long response and I am not OP but I have heard that you can learn to drive with a private tutor in France, I think it was because they need to educate better drivers.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Oh you can do that in Finland as well. You just need to have an extra brake pedal installed on the passenger side, for emergency braking. You also need an extra mirror, and a permit to teach. The requirements for a permit to teach are nominal, it's just that you have at least 5 years experience with the class of vehicles you're teaching (as you could teach a BE as well for instance, not talking about installing extra brake pedals on motorbikes lol), you're at least 25 years of age and have a "clean driving record". I'm not sure what disqualifies one with the record. I think it's probably somewhat subjective. Like a DUI definitely disqualifies you, but some minor speeding prolly won't.

    It's been increasing a lot here. Like when I learned to drive I knew of no-one in my age or near it who'd done it. But my sister is 15 years younger and when she did it my stepdad (her dad, she's my half-sibling) taught her. It's doubled since 2014.

    And I think the driving schools have less theory and driving lessons as well, we had tons. Probably dropped it so that it's faster for the schools to get more people in and out. Ie capitalism loosening safety regulations in the name of profit. Thanks, right-wing government of however long ago it was! ^(/s)

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Thanks, right-wing government of however long ago it was! ^(/s)

    Haha!

    Also, did your father install all that extra? It sounds expensive.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Well, step-father, to be accurate. I've never even lived with him, I moved out when my little sister was born or thereabouts. And I still had a dad long after that, so that's why I don't call him dad or father. (This paragraph was prolly more for me than for you, tbh.)

    But yeah, I used to think it was expensive, and it used to be, afaik, as you had to basically either buy and old drivers-ed car or extensively modify your own vehicle.

    However, someone came up/allowed it to just be a pedal on the passenger side that's bolted on the floor and which then has a hydraulic hose going to the actual breakpedal. So all you have is a pinky-sized hose going between the seats. You can either just let it sit on the console as it doesn't bother anything or you if you really want, take some panels away and put it through there.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And I still had a dad long after that, so that’s why I don’t call him dad or father.

    Sorry for getting it mixed.

    I wonder how they will handle EV or other cars which has paddles connected by electronics. Perhaps a new cable hooked to the same as break will suffice.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah no wörries being pedantic about it is for me, really.

    I'd think EV's would be perhaps about as easy, or easier... in theory. But in practice idk if they always have actual hydraulic brakes. I'd still think they do, even if there's also regenerative braking.

    But for electric cars maybe it would be model based basically. Hell probably at some point the steering wheel and pedals will be wireless so you can change sides when crossing from left-driving traffic to the right and back. Then kids would drive from the backseat as a dare. If we'll even let humans drive in the future. I know automated driving is shit currently, but I was thinking of living for a while yet.

    I'm thinking at some point it will probably be that you'll need to hand over driving to a computer whilst in a city or smth. Then can only drive yourself outside city centers. That could help with traffic. I believe there's already large semitrucks or something which can sort of link in a convoy so only the first truck's driver controls the speed and steering and whatnot, the others are computer controlled in order to minimise braking and fuel consumption etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    But in practice idk if they always have actual hydraulic brakes. I’d still think they do, even if there’s also regenerative braking.

    I thought most of the input from the driver (steering, breaking etc) had a layer of computer between the input interface (steering wheel etc) and the actual moving parts.

    I’m thinking at some point it will probably be that you’ll need to hand over driving to a computer whilst in a city or smth.

    That is an interesting solution on how a first push for self driving cars could look like.

    I saw a documentary some years back about self driving trucks in Australia, a company used them instead because it was safer for a computer than a human to drive through the desert.

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