โฒ 144 โผ Anthropic says Alibaba must be punished for largest Claude cloning attack (arstechnica.com) submitted 4 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 47 comments fedilink hide all child comments ๐ 1
[โ] Hackworth@piefed.ca 7 points 4 months ago (6 children) Well, they did pay, just after the fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children) Well they didn't pay me. But still used all my open source mit and agpl, gpl icensed code to train their model. And now I need to rent their compute back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Womble@piefed.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You chose to publish under that essentially says "do whatever, I dont care". I can understand people who wrote GPL code being peeved, but writing stuff under MIT is pretty much designed to let companies take it and not give back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Sorry also some projects are agpl or gpl indeed. I actually meant to say agpl. They most likely also stole that. Let's be honest here. For example my WineGUI project is agpl. Also I'm also fine if they trained on it. But then they should open source their models and data and their other projects. permalink fedilink source parent [+] timochka@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* My bad. I actually meant agpl. And gpl. You're right to point out the that mit is fine. Which is true. Mit can be used for whatever. But my for example my WineGUI project is agpl. Pretty sure those Ai companies used all open source code regardless of the license. I'm actually also fine if they trained on my agpl code. But then they should have open sourced their models and data. And their whole project. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* That's settlement, not a payment for the stolen goods. If I steal your shit, and to avoid going to jail I offer you some money, I am not paying for what I stole, I'm paying to avoid further consequences. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children) Well they didn't pay me. But still used all my open source mit and agpl, gpl icensed code to train their model. And now I need to rent their compute back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Womble@piefed.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You chose to publish under that essentially says "do whatever, I dont care". I can understand people who wrote GPL code being peeved, but writing stuff under MIT is pretty much designed to let companies take it and not give back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Sorry also some projects are agpl or gpl indeed. I actually meant to say agpl. They most likely also stole that. Let's be honest here. For example my WineGUI project is agpl. Also I'm also fine if they trained on it. But then they should open source their models and data and their other projects. permalink fedilink source parent [+] timochka@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* My bad. I actually meant agpl. And gpl. You're right to point out the that mit is fine. Which is true. Mit can be used for whatever. But my for example my WineGUI project is agpl. Pretty sure those Ai companies used all open source code regardless of the license. I'm actually also fine if they trained on my agpl code. But then they should have open sourced their models and data. And their whole project. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Womble@piefed.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 child) You chose to publish under that essentially says "do whatever, I dont care". I can understand people who wrote GPL code being peeved, but writing stuff under MIT is pretty much designed to let companies take it and not give back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Sorry also some projects are agpl or gpl indeed. I actually meant to say agpl. They most likely also stole that. Let's be honest here. For example my WineGUI project is agpl. Also I'm also fine if they trained on it. But then they should open source their models and data and their other projects. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Sorry also some projects are agpl or gpl indeed. I actually meant to say agpl. They most likely also stole that. Let's be honest here. For example my WineGUI project is agpl. Also I'm also fine if they trained on it. But then they should open source their models and data and their other projects. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] timochka@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* My bad. I actually meant agpl. And gpl. You're right to point out the that mit is fine. Which is true. Mit can be used for whatever. But my for example my WineGUI project is agpl. Pretty sure those Ai companies used all open source code regardless of the license. I'm actually also fine if they trained on my agpl code. But then they should have open sourced their models and data. And their whole project. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 point 4 months ago* My bad. I actually meant agpl. And gpl. You're right to point out the that mit is fine. Which is true. Mit can be used for whatever. But my for example my WineGUI project is agpl. Pretty sure those Ai companies used all open source code regardless of the license. I'm actually also fine if they trained on my agpl code. But then they should have open sourced their models and data. And their whole project. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 point 4 months ago* That's settlement, not a payment for the stolen goods. If I steal your shit, and to avoid going to jail I offer you some money, I am not paying for what I stole, I'm paying to avoid further consequences. permalink fedilink source parent