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[+] -64 points 4 months ago (33 children)

No Gabe, you fucked up with these price hikes. Don't blame the supplier.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago*

    The ram in the system went from 200 dollars to 600 dollars. Not increasing the price of the console by 400 dollars would have meant scrapping it instead.

    There is literally no choice, the ram would have been sold either way, just to someone else instead.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    No Gabe, you fucked up with these price hikes

    ....in the universe you live in, is there cheap ram?

    can I send you money for some please?

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  • [+] -6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    …in the universe you live in, is there cheap ram?

    Private yachts aren't cheap either. To buy an entire fleet of these you need to boost your profits as high as you can.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    so gabe fucked it up by buying a yacht years ago, when ram was cheap, somehow boosting up 'profit' on this margin machine?

    my god you're fucking silly

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    so gabe fucked it up by buying a yacht years ago

    He owns multiple mega yachts, he added a 500 millions one to his fleet last year.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    and you really think this matters in regards to the ram crisis.

    wow, man, whatever you're smoking you should share

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (6 children)
  • [+] -7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Valve and its ceo decides the price of their products. Considering valve is a corporation making billions and the ceo owns an entire fleet of mega yachts, arguing that they are directly to blame for the high prices doesn't sound stupid at all to me. If they are literally swimming in billions their profit cut is high.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Really? The cost of components getting jacked by a supplier is their fault?

    If you really are going to make that claim, you simultaneously lose all credibility by admitting that you are literally arguing in bad faith.

    Shut the fuck up.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Really? The cost of components getting jacked by a supplier is their fault?

    They jack their own prices to begin with, valve is a for profit company making billions, their faith is making profits.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    The component price changed, what was Gabe supposed to do, start manufacturing its own RAM?

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    The component price changed, what was Gabe supposed to do, start manufacturing its own RAM?

    They are swimming in billions, they could easily lower the profits they make and give it away for cheaper but that's not their goal.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    What do you think the margins are on this thing? You know how much the components cost, it's not hard to figure out about how much it costs them.

    Profit margins on consoles are razor thin already, and that's before the skyrocketing price of components.

    I'm sorry if that means your mom can't afford to get it for your birthday now, but it is what it is unfortunately.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Its worse than that, if they were to do a Microsoft or Sony and sell it at a loss to try and make money back on the games, then what would happen when they sell through the batch they currently have of presumably pre "BiBi and Donnys special visit to Iran" costed units, then what?

    Suddenly all the other components are spiking in price, the pcbs and the plastic cost more, the packaging is more expensive, and they are forced to raise their prices. The sound of screeching from the terminally online intensifies as a bunch of "experts" declare that Valve can afford to lose money because Gabe isn't walking around in a barrel Diogenes style.

    As a software company in the hardware industry Valve are a lot further down the chain than the bigger names, they aren't securing super long term contracts with anyone. They don't dictate terms. I doubt they are making a ton of money on any of their hardware, they are just trying to nudge the market in the right direction. We are going to see so many knock off steam machines in the next few years, Microsoft will keep releasing targetted versions of Windows to try to smother SteamOS, its a great time for the rest of the gaming ecosystem while AI fucks the hardware side.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    What do you think the margins are on this thing? You know how much the components cost, it’s not hard to figure out about how much it costs them.

    Considering their ceo bought a 500 millions dollars yatch last year to add to his fleet of mega yatches i believe their margins are super high. A corporation doesn't pay for components the same amount you pay from a retailer.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    So Gabe made the Steam Machine with super high margins, sold out, and then went back in time to buy a yacht last year?

    You do realize that they just started selling this device, so any wealth he may have had last year is completely unrelated.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    by now they have been selling hardware for a decade

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    And the Steam Deck was widely reported to have razor thin (if not negative) margins.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    thin as valve ceo new 500 millions mega yatch

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Buddy, I hate capitalism... But I also know how it works.

    Valve has more than one revenue stream, that means that they can afford to take a loss on something like hardware because it usually means increased game and peripheral sales.

    This isn't unique to Valve, Sony and Nintendo are well known for selling hardware at break even (or small loss). These are billion dollar corporations.

    Can you really not grasp how simple minded it is to see the CEO of a company (for decades) buy an expensive yacht, and assume that must mean that this one specific product that's only a few years old, must have large profit margins? Despite literally all evidence saying the opposite?

    That's just not how it works, dude. Just take a moment to think about what you're actually implying.

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