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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago (9 children) Always? Firefox existed before Chrome permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children) You know what I mean. It was around for 4 years before Chrome, now they have both existed together for 18 years. Firefox was steady for a few years, then Chrome came along and blew it out of the water. Obviously Google pushing it on their main page was the biggest reason for it's insane adoption, but it was also just the better browser at that point, Mozilla have been doing catch-up ever since and constantly tripping up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) I do agree Chrome was the better browser, hell I switched to it primarily after a few years because of how much faster it was. I don't really think that's the case anymore though, Chrome has been enshittifying for years now, and in my experience, they're pretty on-par, except of course I can use extensions without the impending doom spectre on Firefox and on mobile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago* Exactly. I also swapped, it was just so much better back then. I use Firefox now, but they don't seem to know what they want to do with it. Speed wise it's fast, it's more private, it has good extension support. I think they could have leaned into features like Firefox Send, added a P2P mode, people would have used a built-in file sharing thing with good support to it. Pocket was nice, maybe they could have evolved it some way. They just never really tried to give the browser an identity I feel like. "Why would I swap to Firefox?" All I can say is, it's more private (after toggling settings off, ugh). Most don't care about consolidation of the web to one engine. Most of us caring more about FOSS and privacy, use forks like Librewolf and we will probably all end up on a Servo browser. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) ...four? what reality are you from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) They are correct, yes? Firefox 1.0 in 2004, Chrome in 2008. I remember I was in highschool when Firefox came out, in uni when Chrome came out. Seems about right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) firefox was originally phoenix, which was originally the mozilla suite, which was originally netscape. the experience was there from 1999, with the same people behind it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I am aware, I was using Phoenix back in the day. But Firefox version 1.0 came out 4 years before Chrome. They are not loving in an alternate reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) And Chromium was around since 2006? It's all semantics and not the main point anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] warm@kbin.earth -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children) You know what I mean. It was around for 4 years before Chrome, now they have both existed together for 18 years. Firefox was steady for a few years, then Chrome came along and blew it out of the water. Obviously Google pushing it on their main page was the biggest reason for it's insane adoption, but it was also just the better browser at that point, Mozilla have been doing catch-up ever since and constantly tripping up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) I do agree Chrome was the better browser, hell I switched to it primarily after a few years because of how much faster it was. I don't really think that's the case anymore though, Chrome has been enshittifying for years now, and in my experience, they're pretty on-par, except of course I can use extensions without the impending doom spectre on Firefox and on mobile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago* Exactly. I also swapped, it was just so much better back then. I use Firefox now, but they don't seem to know what they want to do with it. Speed wise it's fast, it's more private, it has good extension support. I think they could have leaned into features like Firefox Send, added a P2P mode, people would have used a built-in file sharing thing with good support to it. Pocket was nice, maybe they could have evolved it some way. They just never really tried to give the browser an identity I feel like. "Why would I swap to Firefox?" All I can say is, it's more private (after toggling settings off, ugh). Most don't care about consolidation of the web to one engine. Most of us caring more about FOSS and privacy, use forks like Librewolf and we will probably all end up on a Servo browser. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) ...four? what reality are you from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) They are correct, yes? Firefox 1.0 in 2004, Chrome in 2008. I remember I was in highschool when Firefox came out, in uni when Chrome came out. Seems about right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) firefox was originally phoenix, which was originally the mozilla suite, which was originally netscape. the experience was there from 1999, with the same people behind it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I am aware, I was using Phoenix back in the day. But Firefox version 1.0 came out 4 years before Chrome. They are not loving in an alternate reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) And Chromium was around since 2006? It's all semantics and not the main point anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 child) I do agree Chrome was the better browser, hell I switched to it primarily after a few years because of how much faster it was. I don't really think that's the case anymore though, Chrome has been enshittifying for years now, and in my experience, they're pretty on-par, except of course I can use extensions without the impending doom spectre on Firefox and on mobile. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago* Exactly. I also swapped, it was just so much better back then. I use Firefox now, but they don't seem to know what they want to do with it. Speed wise it's fast, it's more private, it has good extension support. I think they could have leaned into features like Firefox Send, added a P2P mode, people would have used a built-in file sharing thing with good support to it. Pocket was nice, maybe they could have evolved it some way. They just never really tried to give the browser an identity I feel like. "Why would I swap to Firefox?" All I can say is, it's more private (after toggling settings off, ugh). Most don't care about consolidation of the web to one engine. Most of us caring more about FOSS and privacy, use forks like Librewolf and we will probably all end up on a Servo browser. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago* Exactly. I also swapped, it was just so much better back then. I use Firefox now, but they don't seem to know what they want to do with it. Speed wise it's fast, it's more private, it has good extension support. I think they could have leaned into features like Firefox Send, added a P2P mode, people would have used a built-in file sharing thing with good support to it. Pocket was nice, maybe they could have evolved it some way. They just never really tried to give the browser an identity I feel like. "Why would I swap to Firefox?" All I can say is, it's more private (after toggling settings off, ugh). Most don't care about consolidation of the web to one engine. Most of us caring more about FOSS and privacy, use forks like Librewolf and we will probably all end up on a Servo browser. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 4 months ago (5 children) ...four? what reality are you from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) They are correct, yes? Firefox 1.0 in 2004, Chrome in 2008. I remember I was in highschool when Firefox came out, in uni when Chrome came out. Seems about right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) firefox was originally phoenix, which was originally the mozilla suite, which was originally netscape. the experience was there from 1999, with the same people behind it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I am aware, I was using Phoenix back in the day. But Firefox version 1.0 came out 4 years before Chrome. They are not loving in an alternate reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) And Chromium was around since 2006? It's all semantics and not the main point anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) They are correct, yes? Firefox 1.0 in 2004, Chrome in 2008. I remember I was in highschool when Firefox came out, in uni when Chrome came out. Seems about right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) firefox was originally phoenix, which was originally the mozilla suite, which was originally netscape. the experience was there from 1999, with the same people behind it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I am aware, I was using Phoenix back in the day. But Firefox version 1.0 came out 4 years before Chrome. They are not loving in an alternate reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) And Chromium was around since 2006? It's all semantics and not the main point anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) firefox was originally phoenix, which was originally the mozilla suite, which was originally netscape. the experience was there from 1999, with the same people behind it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I am aware, I was using Phoenix back in the day. But Firefox version 1.0 came out 4 years before Chrome. They are not loving in an alternate reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) And Chromium was around since 2006? It's all semantics and not the main point anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago I am aware, I was using Phoenix back in the day. But Firefox version 1.0 came out 4 years before Chrome. They are not loving in an alternate reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] warm@kbin.earth -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) And Chromium was around since 2006? It's all semantics and not the main point anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 4 months ago could also go back to khtml if we want, but the chromium beta was pretty rough. permalink fedilink source parent