A new Yahoo/YouGov survey finds that about twice as many U.S. adults say they would vote for a candidate with Mamdani's platform (50%) than say they would not (26%). Could it be a blueprint for Democrats elsewhere?

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[–] 0 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

So, your plan is to waste debate time and call yourself a Socialist.

No. That is a mischaracterization and oversimplification of what I wrote (like how did you get that from my second paragraph?). I'm already going to be called a socialist; and until the word and others like it are unpacked, they will always be used to fearmonger. Best to address it head-on and take away the power to demonize. I mean just see how many times Mamdani was asked about it during his latest interviews, including with NPR. You have to confront it because it's a curiosity with the unknown for so many people.

At its core, you must rewire the literal circuitry of people's brains to link policies -> socialism, or better yet, Nordic model. But if you don't strongly link these policies to a ideological package, people will feel adrift. It's why political parties are so attractive. People like pigeon-holing things. Granted, I would also say that I am not a socialist, but a social democrat and strong advocate of a mixed Nordic Model economy— which itself is overwhelmingly more palatable for swing-voters, and even some Trump supporters I've talked with.

Why not do something like say “This is what Ike backed back when he was President. Are you calling Ike a Communist?”

I'm open to saying that; but neither is that mutually-exclusive to what I intended to say. And if it was Trump I'm debating, he probably would say "yes, that Ike was a communist" or "no Ike couldn't be a commie, he was a Republican!" And then ramble on incoherently about cats & dogs.

No doubt, you need quick-witted quips back in debates that go on the attack, I agree. In fairness my response is probably better suited for a town hall or interview.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    And you think your opponents won't mischaracterize you?

    Leave the ivory tower and look at the real world.

    Politics is a dirty game at the best of times. People lie, steal, cheat, and connive on a daily basis.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    lol no fucking shit? This is a meta-discussion. I didn't know I was talking to a Trump supporter. Thought we could discuss like adults, but clearly not.

    Is that real world enough for you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    So, you can't actually defend your position in any rational way.

    Thanks for proving my point.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    lol what a peculiar fella. Have a good day.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, lenny, you're so funny.

    You claim that in a debate you'd be a tireless fighter in a debate, but one question from me has you running out the door. Thank goodness there are real Socialists out there who we can rely on. Farewell, little keyboard warrior. And I promise not to reply, so you can have the last word and a big win!

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