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Democrats campaigning on "affordability" are cutting back on their anti-oil rhetoric but they should be focusing on removing the red tape surrounding solar, which could be much cheaper! (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] 21 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Democrats back on the hunt for the elusive "center voter" I see. They will fail just as they have failed before going after "center voters"

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    They at least sometimes turn out. This mythical progressive voter (and indeed in blue as the ocean Cali where the climate die hard just lost) doesn't seem to ever find a candidate worthy of getting off the couch for except once in a blue moon.

    I find it pretty incredulous to argue that Democrats meeting people where theyre at is a bad thing. And again, this is in California..

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    In my mind, it would be way easier to energize your own base than it is to convince people that prefer your opponent to vote for you. It's not the "left's fault" that Democrats keep failing to enact meaningful change.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    You're not "the base" if you only show up haphazardly. The "centrists" everyone despises are the base. That's why they continually win primaries, etc.

    I'd love for more left leaning candidates to win but until people turn out, they won't. Can't expect great candidates to fall from the sky. People actually need to put the work in and they clearly don't.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I read the article and don’t understand your comment. How is this an example of democrats trying to get “center voters”?

    Not that they shouldn’t be trying to win over centrists, they definitely should because there are more centrists than leftists by a lot and those centrists are constituents.

    Not to mention that is how democrats have won the majority of nation wide elections in the last several decades.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    It's also how the Overton window keeps skewing to the right, js

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If the majority of voters are centrists then shouldn’t the policies reflect that?

    Do you think leftist policies should be forced onto voters that don’t want them and vote against them?

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Assuming the political leanings of the populous are measured in a vacuum, sure. But they aren't. They are so much not that the idea of centrist in the US is pretty solid right for the rest of the democratic world. When your only options of votes are "guys who have a hard-on for fascism" and "let's appeal to those who aren't entirely sold but are willing to see where the fascism goes", you see how this can, over time, really shove things in that direction. It's a false choice that's even further reduced due to both parties controlling educational resources and the generational knowledge base used to influence successive generations

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Assuming the political leanings of the populous are measured in a vacuum, sure. But they aren't.

    Right, we also aren’t measuring political leanings worldwide. We are measuring them in the United States.

    In the United States leftist have very few voters and candidates because of its lack of popularity.

    When your only options of votes are "guys who have a hard-on for fascism" and "let's appeal to those who aren't entirely sold but are willing to see where the fascism goes",

    The reason these are the two options are because these options win in the primaries by the majority of voters choosing them in a democracy.

    Leftists run in the primaries and lose fairly, even to AIPAC candidates.

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