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[+] -44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (46 children)

Seems kinda over the top. Not everybody has design chops, nor artistic abilities - never mind the event itself should be the focus, not how all the myriad promotional details are put together. What's more important to focus on?

ETA: Don't get me wrong: what they're passing off as "AI" sucks in so many ways, but it can be useful in areas not requiring reliably factual output. Outside of having briefly tried it a few times in the past, I don't even use it myself.

EDIT 2: I'm done here. I've made my points in several ways across numerous comments, and too many of you seem incapable of looking at things objectively. Latecomers with an open mind are welcome to read my comment history to see what I'm talking about, but I will not be responding to all the closed-minded angry mob types anymore. There's little more I can say that I haven't already.

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  • [–] [B] 34 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Oh how I look back fondly upon the days of ClipArt flyers made in MS word, feels like everyone's forgotten about it

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (8 children)

    I'm old enough to remember when Print Shop drove a very significant number of printer sales. I've not forgotten that option, but nowadays far fewer people have printers, let alone these kinds of apps.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Most people’s local libraries have printers and usually access to software like that, if not there there’s always Kinkos.

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  • [+] -8 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    Which is how I'm assuming they're getting these printed regardless of how they're created/generated. My point was that people often don't generally have these things on hand where they're working on them. I haven't used a library computer in a very long time, but so far as I know they're usually very locked-down devices suitable only for Web access.

    Again, my point is that - assuming it's not a big-budget event - they're trying to do this quickly to avoid taking too much time away from all the other aspects involved in planning & setting up such an event. The idea is just to get the word out, not make a masterful presentation on paper about it. For quick one-off out-of-the-daily-routine tasks, I can understand going this route.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I haven't used a library computer in a very long time

    Perhaps you should, my local library has a 3-D printer and a milling machine… Libraries have changed.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    a CNC milling machine or a manual one? and what kind of materials are you allowed to work on?
    cool either way though!

    and the 3D printer is neat too, but do you have to sit there and wait till it's done or are you allowed to leave? also do you happen to know what 3D printing software do they use?

    I haven't stepped foot in a library in a while, as you can tell. But I think it's neat they're keeping up with new technologies with (I'm as assuming) public funds.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    It’s a small CNC machine, I’m not aware of the limitations off the top of my head.

    You can checkout time on the printer and they have a person on staff who will do it for you if you don’t know how.

    They also have workshops where you can come and learn how to use the machines and software.

    Several of the branches around here also have fairly robust media libraries as well, with CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray’s, etc. and you can checkout ebooks from their website.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    People managed to do it without AI before a few years ago, they can continue to do so.

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  • [+] -22 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    I'm sure similar was said about computers vs typewriters, calculators, etc. You're not wrong, but the more expedient path tends to win out in the end.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    Yes, but computers, typewriters, and calculators had the ability to produce useful and aesthetically pleasing things while not destroying the planet in the process. I know, people will use it for things like this regardless, but there is no good excuse for doing so due to the enormous downsides.

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  • [+] -12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    To a point, I don't disagree. Reality does reality things, however - whether people like it or not. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not disputing that they will do these things, I'm just stating very good reasons why they should not.

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  • [+] -10 points 5 months ago

    Yes, the energy needs currently are absurd, but I'm sure the earliest building & room-filling computers were the same — while we were far less conscious of the energy consumption at the time. Things improved eventually, and this likely will as well. I agree it shouldn't be used nearly as much as it is being pushed in its current form, but the reality is that it will still be used nonetheless.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 months ago (3 children)

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  • [+] -24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    You're just full of shit, aren't you? This is at least the third fourth fifth time under a single post you've responded to me with this same childishness. Grow up.

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

    You don't need to be the master at graphics design to make it and it can be as simple as using Mircosoft Word, Libreoffice Writer or Canvas. They may not be professional but I will take that over someone using generated AI as at least they put the effort in

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  • [+] -12 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Missing my point. There's a lot involved in planning & setting up an event. Assuming a small number of people (or just one) are putting this together with limited time to devote to it, I think it's reasonable that they focus more of that time on the event itself than figuring out the promotional material if they can avoid it.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    EVENT TITLE

    DESCRIPTION OF EVENT

    TIME OF EVENT

    Bam I made a flyer for an event in ten seconds that fits everything you need it to. AI is enriching the worst ghouls of our era, will further enable the police state dystopia, and also kills the environment everytime it's used.

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  • [+] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    Ah yes let me hire an artist for my checks notes Children's birthday party.

    "Sorry little Bobby Tables, I can either hire a union artist or get you a present"

    What happened to using Word or Doc to make a shitty flier?

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  • [+] -20 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    "lazy and disorganized"

    Presumptuous and judgemental much?

    cant hire an artist

    Never worked under an extremely limited budget, huh?

    why would the rest of their event be any good?

    Because they expended more time and effort on ensuring the event was good than they did the flyer, maybe?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Presumptuous and judgemental

    If I see someone litter on the street, I'm going to assume the worst of them, because littering is bad. If I see someone kick a puppy, I'm going to assume the worst of them, because kicking puppies is bad. And if I see an event using "AI" for its promotional material, any of it, I'm going to assume the worst of it, because using "AI" is bad. There are certain things that, when done in view of other people, will almost universally turn them against you. Your own promotional material should not be one of these things, but using generated images makes it such. If you don't have the time or money for a fancy flyer, you use simple word art tools (of which there are many free online), or even just print out a paper with information in plain text. Even that would endear more people to your event than using an image generator.

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  • [+] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
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  • [+] -15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Your "all or nothing/my way or the highway" opinion is what's trash. There's nuance to be considered in everything if you care about what the actual truth of any particular matter is. Yes, there are limits to how far down that hole you should bother to go, but you're not even acknowledging it's there.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Damn that's a good point. I remember the days before genAI when events just didn't have fliers unless they were run by artists. That was definitely how things were up until 2022.

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  • [+] -12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Damn, that's a good point. I remember how people were able to get about using horse and buggies. We don't need all these cars, trains, etc.

    🙄

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    We don't need cars, actually, you're right about that.

    Just paste your prompt into Photoshop and make a poster out of that. If you can write words you can make a flier.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I agree with you. I wouldn't use it myself but it also depends, if a friend or a person made it for a party or something small, no big deal. But if it's a corporation or a big event, that tells you a lot about the quality of the event itself, so I would agree with the OP in that case and wouldn't go.

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