NihilsineNefas comments on Starmer gives tech firms ultimatum to block explicit images on children’s phones

Starmer gives tech firms ultimatum to block explicit images on children’s phones (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 21 points 5 months ago (14 children)

So they want to give an unknown entity infinite access to scan through every image on a CHILDS phone on the off chance that said child might have something the state deems inappropriate?

I'm no tech whiz, but isnt this going to end up with a lot of open gaps for antagonists to get hold of every private thing that happens on said phones?

Are these scanned images going to be stored in datacenters and processed off-device or is the program going to use pattern recognition from some ML system to judge the personal infornation of someone who's underage?

What happens when they reach adulthood? Does the program suddenly go "Right, you're an adult now, no more big brother spying on you."

How in any way shape or form does this do anything to protect children?

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago (10 children)

How in any way shape or form does this do anything to protect children?

It doesn't. That was never the intention, it was purely pretext.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 months ago (9 children)

And the implied "If you fight against this you must want to abuse kids/want to make it easier for kids to get abused"

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago (8 children)

And the implied “If you fight against this you must want to abuse kids

That is childishly easy to counter by pointing out who it is that children really need protection from,, but nobody in our bootlicker media or lapdog political institutions wants to to do that because they are all in favour of clamping down on internet freedom..

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Sweet jesus. The phrase "This does not look good on paper" doesn't even come close to cutting it.

Every day you see something new that really makes you want to drop tungsten rods from orbit onto these shitheels.

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Don't worry... before long, we won't have access to any real information like that at all!

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

That'll definitely be true in the next decade if they (replace 'they' with the name of legitimately any country) keep killing journalists and brutalising any civilians brave enough to record their jackbooted fingermen.

That or they'll just make it so you can't view anything the powers that be have decided is 'problematic' without providing a full 3D facial scan, your full name and address, monitoring your expressions to see what you unconsciously think about it... waitaminute that's what they're already doing!

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It turns out those old geezers who believed the internet would democratise information wasn't so crazy after all... the internet was sure starting to look like it could actually do it. And now the libs are doing everything in their power to put a stop to it - all because the internet torpedoed the liberal consensus on Israel they have spent untold amounts of treasure on keeping afloat over the decades.

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[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

Prior to the internet those who controlled the press owned public opinion.

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yep. I'm an old... I remember what that was like and how easy it was for them because I was there.

That's why when I see leftist pundits say, "being on the internet is not true praxis!" my eyes roll so hard I almost perform an involuntary backflip.

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[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

The US millitary would agree. Things like the zapatistas and the ZAD movement wouldn't have been possible without the internet.

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago*

The US millitary would agree.

That's because they understand what the internet is... the most critical ideological battleground the human race has ever managed to create.

Still waiting for the left to figure it out... but I'm not holding my breath.

Kinetically destroying the ideology (killing infected people) is a method of attriting the ideology

Gotta love the language these people use - and this is just the unclassified stuff.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The article itself even references children being groomed into taking pictures, but absolutely fucking nothing about going after the groomers themselves.

Surely it would be easier and prevent more harm to, I don't know, castrate and lobotomise every child abuser.

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[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Do you really wanna give the state the power to castrate anyone it deems a child abuser?

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 point 5 months ago

No. I want for there to be a legal system that will fairly punish people that exploit and or abuse the most vulnerable members of society.

Saying that, I am aware that there have been multiple countries in the past 100 years that are confirmed to have been chemically or surgically sterilising members of the population they deem 'undesirable'

It's not a matter of wanting to give the state that power, because they already have it. In my mind it's a matter of making sure that nobody is above the punishment, and every single person on the planet knows what happens to those that break the cardinal rule of "Don't be a nonce"

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