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Microsoft is letting you kill Bing in Windows 11 Search, after years of forcing it on every PC (www.windowslatest.com)
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[+] -8 points 5 months ago (21 children)

Gamers do, because game devs suck up to Microsoft by not putting PC games on Linux or macOS. Sadly, even "indie" devs.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago* (18 children)

    99,9% of all games I "own", I can play on Linux just fine. Except fucknuggets like destiny2, which you technically could play if only bungie allowed it. Might look slightly different if you only play multiplayer, I dunno. Those with aggressive root - kits anti-cheat maybe.

    Actually I even game better now. Before I made a tool just to be able to pause a game at any time, which worked like 50% of the time, sometimes fucking all up. On Linux it's a small script with 100% success. To me, a major improvement.

    I still have a windows drive for "emergencies" when a game won't run. Haven't booted it since I switched in January. And I game like 4-8hrs a day (with breaks) with different games all day.

    Thanks to steam's efforts, Linux gaming is absolutely viable. All is fine, performance, HDR, sound, input...nothing is worse now.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Lol I switched to cachyos also about 4 months ago and I completely agree with you.

    My only game that doesn't work is Battlefield 6 and it's just because their anticheat doesn't authenticate linux environment. They could but explicitly said that would permit linux cheaters to ruin the game. Well too bad, I lost one game and gain a lot of freedom and "sovereignty" over my operating system. I also have a dusty windows partition that I dread having to boot after 4 months. I'd rather not imagine the state of that W10 outdated partition :/

    I also think I game better on cachyos mostly because I have more free RAM and less background stuff running I don't need while I'm playing.

    The only thing I don't really agree with you is HDR. I kind of gave up for now on tweaking games to support it. On some games I never could make it work even with a lot of tweaking (gamescope etc). On some other games I made the effort but just couldn't see the difference so it seemed not worth it. On Windows I had nothing at all to do to get 100% functional HDR on all games.

    Still very very happy to be gaming on linux and the fact that I play even more on linux than I did on Windows shows how practical it is.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe it got better much? Not even tweaking a lot. Just protonge34 and it works, not even using gamescope. Only thing not working (yet) with HDR is mangohud. But that's ok.

    Give it another shot?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe it's because we don't use the same variant of Proton ?

    My default is proton-cachyos and I usually use GE when I have issues.

    Honestly I'm not really willing to use GE as a default. Proton-cachyos is, if I understand correctly, a proton version optimized specifically for my OS and is pretty much based on similar proton-experimental upstream.

    For now HDR support is not really worth switching things up for me. Even on Windows honestly I didn't see a difference on my pretty high end OLED ultrawide monitor.

    I will try again later but for now if it doesn't work fine with my DE or my proton version of choice I don't think it's really worth the complexification.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    Not worth it? For me it was literally the most important thing after swtichjng. Get that shit to work. It's hard to go back. Like from 4k to VHS.

    But highly possible it now also works great with proton-cachyos. I tried A LOT and probably lost oversight lol. But definitely works. On plasma/Wayland that is. But who cares if it's not that big of a deal for you 😁

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I game almost every single day, and haven't booted Windows in years. In the last 3 years I haven't actually had any game I wanted to play not be able to run in Linux. I've had one that crashed non-stop, but judging by the thousands of complaints from Windows users about the same thing that wasn't a Linux problem.

    So yeah, gaming is no excuse, you can game just fine under Linux as long as the devs don't intentionally block Linux like what happened with Destiny 2 (which Bungie just summarily executed so they can dump more cash into the trash fire that is Marathon, RIP Bungie I await the bankruptcy announcement).

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    True. That's the only thing I really miss, but now it's dead anyway so that's that...

    But gaming indeed WAS the excuse. I game a lot and would never want to boot back and forth. So I was stuck with fucking windows until I gave Linux another try for my main rig. Should've done it earlier 😁

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Ray tracing on linux has horrible performance.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I found it horrible on win too. Eats too much performance. I prefer 120fps over fancy RT. So couldn't even say if it was worse or not.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    The interface for getting it set up is still worse if you're not using Steam. But I agree it is way way way more viable than it was even 3 years ago.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    For the others are other launchers like..I forgot, I only have crap on gog and epic anyway 😁

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Heroic Launcher is pretty good. It can sync GoG cloud saves and launch games with Proton-GE or any wine environment you prefer. Cyberpunk 77 runs great.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    Why would I need to have a 3rd party "launcher"?

    Thats like saying I have 5o have an app store to get software

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    You wouldn't NEED one. But why would you want to browse different libraries of games manually and install "by hand" if there's some simple launcher? Like steam, gog galaxy or playnite for win. Doesn't mean you couldn't. I also install a lot of cracked games to playtest. With mods and cheatengine and whatnot. Don't even notice it's not windows.

    BTW: On your phone you don't even have a choice anymore other than ONE "launcher". So...choice is good 😊

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    I'm admittedly in a bit of a bubble, but right now my PC gamer friends are a pretty even split between windows and Linux. Know anyone with a steam deck? They're gaming on Linux.

    No, it's not quite as user-friendly as windows, and it takes a couple extra steps to get things running, especially if you're playing non-steam games, but that's one-time setup stuff then you're golden. Most games are able to run fine on Linux these days, by some measures more PC games may actually work on Linux than in Windows because sometimes new versions of Windows have broken compatibility issues with older games.

    There's edge-cases to be sure, like some stuff with kernel-level anticheat have issues, but the state of that constantly improving, even the game devs are improving Linux support from their end in a lot of cases.

    Anecdotally, I've had some cases where games are even running better for me on Linux than they did on Windows. Part of that is that most of the main components of my computer are pushing 15 years old, but I think that alone is a pretty big endorsement for Linux gaming that in some cases it can keep your rig relevant for longer.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    as a fresh linux convert all of my games work on linux thanks to steam. it even runs my ancient 2007 arcade-esque game that i was sent in an email from the dev better than windows used to

    valve has put in the work for us, and now no gamer can use that as an excuse

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