▲ 586 ▼ GitHub just switched Copilot to metered billing, and developers are watching months of credits vanish in a single day (www.techspot.com) submitted 5 months ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 154 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ryantown@lemmy.world 184 points 5 months ago (11 children) Yeah, what's the surprise here? Turns out it's expensive. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 79 points 5 months ago (8 children) Microsoft was deceptive here and never made it clear exactly what sort of deal you were getting with the flat rate. There was no indication of the actual magnitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (4 children) You'd have to be truly ignorant to not know that it was going to happen (not saying that you are). It'll be interesting to see if there any legal recourse, but I'm guessing not. All of these companies are hemmoraging money to train and provide LLMs. The only option is to charge more. This current increase, IMO, is an alpha test for future increases. Unless there is a major jump in the technology, moreso the logic to train LLMs more efficiently, the cost has to keep going up to stay solvent for most of these major players. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) I’m not talking about ignorance here, just one of the facts about how Microsoft was being shitty. Are you defending Microsoft’s choice to be shitty? Or just excited to share how you knew better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago Absolutely not defending Microsoft. I'm just saying that it was obvious even a couple of years ago that this current pricing model isn't feasible. It was always part of the plan to jack up prices, because that's how every subscription service operates. In the case of AI, the expenses are astronomical and the pricing has never been close to something resembling profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) Microsoft announced these price increases back in April, this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toddestan@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago The surprise is that while Microsoft did announce how they were changing how Copilot usage is billed, they didn't really give users a good way to gauge how expensive their current usage would be under the new billing system. Turns out it's a lot more expensive than most people were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryantown@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago It was very much a red flag when they shut down signups. permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago It was easy to know how much the slop machine costs to run if you bothered to put even a tiny effort into finding out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago Pop-pop! permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social 14 points 5 months ago The surprise is that they're not continuing to throw VC money at it to bolster user numbers and mislead investors. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 point 5 months ago For the poor that will take the hit when the next bailout happens permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 79 points 5 months ago (8 children) Microsoft was deceptive here and never made it clear exactly what sort of deal you were getting with the flat rate. There was no indication of the actual magnitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (4 children) You'd have to be truly ignorant to not know that it was going to happen (not saying that you are). It'll be interesting to see if there any legal recourse, but I'm guessing not. All of these companies are hemmoraging money to train and provide LLMs. The only option is to charge more. This current increase, IMO, is an alpha test for future increases. Unless there is a major jump in the technology, moreso the logic to train LLMs more efficiently, the cost has to keep going up to stay solvent for most of these major players. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) I’m not talking about ignorance here, just one of the facts about how Microsoft was being shitty. Are you defending Microsoft’s choice to be shitty? Or just excited to share how you knew better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago Absolutely not defending Microsoft. I'm just saying that it was obvious even a couple of years ago that this current pricing model isn't feasible. It was always part of the plan to jack up prices, because that's how every subscription service operates. In the case of AI, the expenses are astronomical and the pricing has never been close to something resembling profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) Microsoft announced these price increases back in April, this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toddestan@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago The surprise is that while Microsoft did announce how they were changing how Copilot usage is billed, they didn't really give users a good way to gauge how expensive their current usage would be under the new billing system. Turns out it's a lot more expensive than most people were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryantown@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago It was very much a red flag when they shut down signups. permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago It was easy to know how much the slop machine costs to run if you bothered to put even a tiny effort into finding out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago Pop-pop! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (4 children) You'd have to be truly ignorant to not know that it was going to happen (not saying that you are). It'll be interesting to see if there any legal recourse, but I'm guessing not. All of these companies are hemmoraging money to train and provide LLMs. The only option is to charge more. This current increase, IMO, is an alpha test for future increases. Unless there is a major jump in the technology, moreso the logic to train LLMs more efficiently, the cost has to keep going up to stay solvent for most of these major players. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) I’m not talking about ignorance here, just one of the facts about how Microsoft was being shitty. Are you defending Microsoft’s choice to be shitty? Or just excited to share how you knew better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago Absolutely not defending Microsoft. I'm just saying that it was obvious even a couple of years ago that this current pricing model isn't feasible. It was always part of the plan to jack up prices, because that's how every subscription service operates. In the case of AI, the expenses are astronomical and the pricing has never been close to something resembling profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) Microsoft announced these price increases back in April, this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toddestan@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago The surprise is that while Microsoft did announce how they were changing how Copilot usage is billed, they didn't really give users a good way to gauge how expensive their current usage would be under the new billing system. Turns out it's a lot more expensive than most people were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) I’m not talking about ignorance here, just one of the facts about how Microsoft was being shitty. Are you defending Microsoft’s choice to be shitty? Or just excited to share how you knew better? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago Absolutely not defending Microsoft. I'm just saying that it was obvious even a couple of years ago that this current pricing model isn't feasible. It was always part of the plan to jack up prices, because that's how every subscription service operates. In the case of AI, the expenses are astronomical and the pricing has never been close to something resembling profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) Microsoft announced these price increases back in April, this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toddestan@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago The surprise is that while Microsoft did announce how they were changing how Copilot usage is billed, they didn't really give users a good way to gauge how expensive their current usage would be under the new billing system. Turns out it's a lot more expensive than most people were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago Absolutely not defending Microsoft. I'm just saying that it was obvious even a couple of years ago that this current pricing model isn't feasible. It was always part of the plan to jack up prices, because that's how every subscription service operates. In the case of AI, the expenses are astronomical and the pricing has never been close to something resembling profit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 child) Microsoft announced these price increases back in April, this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toddestan@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago The surprise is that while Microsoft did announce how they were changing how Copilot usage is billed, they didn't really give users a good way to gauge how expensive their current usage would be under the new billing system. Turns out it's a lot more expensive than most people were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago The surprise is that while Microsoft did announce how they were changing how Copilot usage is billed, they didn't really give users a good way to gauge how expensive their current usage would be under the new billing system. Turns out it's a lot more expensive than most people were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryantown@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago It was very much a red flag when they shut down signups. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago It was easy to know how much the slop machine costs to run if you bothered to put even a tiny effort into finding out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 14 points 5 months ago The surprise is that they're not continuing to throw VC money at it to bolster user numbers and mislead investors. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 point 5 months ago For the poor that will take the hit when the next bailout happens permalink fedilink source parent