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Doug Ford banned speed cameras. The City of Ottawa posted the raw speed data from before and after the ban. This chart shows the percentage of drivers going 15km/h or more over the posted limit. (feddit.uk)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/ontario@lemmy.ca
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[–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's so selfishly myopic to look at the differences in fatality between 40 and 50, to look at the effects on driving speeds that these camera have, and then conclude, "This is a pointless money grab!" Like, dude, you're clearly lying to yourself out loud. The lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like there's a middle ground between your two posts, like the speed limit should be lowered by 5 and that should be added as a margin of error. That way you don't get angry people behind you for going under the speed limit when you're just trying to not get a ticket.

    I'm not sure it's super constructive to be so antagonistic, especially when the other person has a valid concern.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Right, yeah, the middle ground is, "continue to be a menace to pedestrians," great. Heavens forbid we inconvenience a motorist. We're not lowering limits and controlling illegal speeding because it's fun. You should have a look at pedestrian fatality stats from the last ten years.

    He does NOT have a valid concern. He has privilege that he feels has been threatened, and he has formed it into an objection-shaped lie. It's gross entitlement that endangers other people's lives. These cameras are not a cash-grab. The valid concern here is not killing innocent, vulnerable people.

    I think what you're not grasping is the classism at play. Motorists are a relatively affluent, powerful class who are straight up killing several-fold more people from a relatively poor, relatively disabled, relatively powerless, stigmatized and victimized class than they need to, not even for convenience but for the fucking FASHION of wearing an oversized vehicle while they speed around the city. And then they fucking BITCH about it.

    People need to be a lot more angry about this. If you are not aware, after decades of improvement, pedestrian fatalities have spiked recently to their highest levels in more than 40 years. This is no longer a friendly disagreement. Our own government, the body responsible for ensuring the safety of all road users, is turning protection of the most vulnerable users into a culture war issue. This shit is not okay.

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