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Weird how that works (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 71 points 5 months ago* (9 children)

Electric cars free people from a finite resource controlled by a few

AI data centres are intended to hook people on a new, artificially created, resource, controlled by a few

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    Pretty sure electric car batteries rely on finite resources, too. Further, I'm pretty sure all resources are finite, which is why people fight so hard to control those resources for personal gain.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago* (6 children)

    Okay I guess finite, disposable resources, then

    You can recycle batteries, you can't use petrol twice

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago* (5 children)

    My point is that a consumer product is in no way "freeing" the average citizen.

    Better bus service, high speed trains, and bike paths would be more freeing but carbrained consumers only think solutions come from buying things. You're just trading one capitalist for another.

    Electric cars are liked by billionaires because they don't want better solutions where they have to rub elbows with commoners. This allows them to always have private transport while reducing quality transport options for regular citizens.

    Musk literally used his lie of a hyperloop (another way for billionaires to have privacy at the expense of the public) to kill high speed rail in California. This is the guy who kickstarted EV sales in the US.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago*

    I'm all for massive expansion of public transport, and I agree EVs should constitute a pretty small part of the ideal transport mix.

    However, the vast majority of negative sentiment around EVs you see in the press is not coming from a place of "let's do public transport instead", it's coming from the oil industry wanting people to stay hooked on their product. EVs categorically free consumers significantly from oil companies

    That's what my point was really: the messaging is different because of that dynamic, a dealer wanting to keep people hooked versus a dealer wanting to hook new customers

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Don't know why you're downvoted

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I downvoted because they’re going off on a tangent. I’m annoyed when people disagree with an improved “ideally we should …”. Yes we know but let’s not let the ideal block us from ever improving

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