vrek comments on Immigrants don't take our jobs

[–] vrek@programming.dev -1 points 5 months ago (1 child)

On your second point I agree. My initial point was that should encourage them to change/get help and not blame immigrants. If you have those issues and don't fix them you will still be unemployed regardless of immigrants. You can fix them and improve your situation but even if we had 0 immigrants, no one will voluntarily hire a meth addict who shows up 10% of the time.

I'm pro-immigrant. My point was against people against them. If you are native to your country and can't compete vs an illegal immigrant that's a you problem. A native has so many advantages and the immigrant has so many struggles, it's like the lowest bar.

"they are taking are jobs" people are basically complaining about the mice taking droppings from their feast.

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[–] turdas@suppo.fi 4 points 5 months ago

I'm not arguing against immigration, just against abusive employment practices.

A lot of the present-day immigration is facilitated by neoliberal globalists looking to drive down the price of work by introducing competition for unskilled labour (well, all labour really, but this is especially common for unskilled labour). They first offshored their production to countries with lax labour laws and cheap labour, and now that they've offshored everything they could, the only way they can further drive down labour costs is by driving them down locally.

In other words, the "they are taking the jobs" people are not entirely incorrect, though they are still barking up the wrong tree by blaming the immigrants rather than the people hiring them. But the rest of us must also not be blind to the fact that the current model of immigration is built to benefit multinational companies and billionaires, not so much anyone else.

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