I think you missed the concept of what I was saying. I am talking about what people think of when someone mentions that someone should come over here and join Lemmy. Posts like https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/16hkxua/why_im_giving_up_on_lemmyfediverse/. Since so few people seem curious enough to research things on their own, and before I get accused of making stuff up again, I'll just copy the whole thing in its entirety:
Hi everyone,
When Reddit introduced its bullshit changes I very early on decided that Lemmy was the best candidate and put my support behind it as I imagined that it would be a freer climate for discussion which would foster more creativity.
After now having spent a few months on the platform, I can say that I'm not really seeing an improvement over current Reddit. Yes, you can use it on mobile, but who the hell cares when the content is 90% just repost bots from Reddit? I'd rather just not use any social media on my phone in that case and have a book available instead.
But what really makes me want to come back here is the fact that most instances are super extremist towards the left to a degree that makes me feel very uncomfortable. We've also got tons of Russia/China apologists who openly support their agenda. You've also got a lot of FOSS extremists which makes browsing any technology related subreddit a chore for the same reasons. The thing though that completely kills any nuance in the discussion though is the fact that there's peer pressure via defederation that more or less forces the political views of the biggest instances onto ever other instance lest thee be defederated from the network.
So no thanks, I'm out. I'd take a moderately center-left site anyday rather than endure another day of the bullshit Lemmy has going on as a universe right now.
This was from 2-3 years ago now. The content has gotten better, and the UX too, but the in-fighting has gotten worse (see calls on \0 governance community to defederate from Lemmy.world). You legitimately might have missed a lot of this - many of the BS posts end up getting deleted - but it is here, and when \0 defederates from LW it is going to affect us all, especially if they defederate from all PieFed instances too, and every other instance that they have accused of Zionist moderation practices.
And even (much newer) posts that are aimed at being strongly positive towards us, such as https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1ixf1gb/lemmy_may_seem_small_but_its_the_most_viable/, get heavy pushback in the comment sections. e.g. calling us "Reddit but decentralized", and "Lemmy is dreadful. Sorry but it’s true.", and wow this one hurts:
It is just as much of a virtue signalling hive mind circle jerk as Reddit. Still has shitty moderation and you get Lemmy sites trying to bully and censor undesirables or wrong think via defederation. If anything it is even worse of an echo chamber.
I'm not talking about whether we deserve to be liked, I'm saying that those of who want to be here already are, whereas among Redditors in particular we have a certain... "reputation", and it is not a good one. Some of those people might be happier with Nostr or Voat or Truth Social, and we definitely hope that those people go there rather than here, but the centrists...? Yeah they don't like us here. They say so and everything. Anyone can read these messages. I've seen the same on Bluesky too, when I've gone looking.
I'm not suggesting that we make any changes necessarily, just saying that an honest diagnosis of the situation is helpful if we ever did want to make this place more welcoming. Which we do not, it would seem, but if we ever did... then we need to realize that for primarily American centrists (who are the majority audience of people on Reddit?), they don't want to come to a 4chan version of Reddit. They are on Reddit for a reason - it meets their needs, no matter how enshittified it also gets alongside that. Spez was (at least partially) right - he did in fact get away with calling us all landed gentry. The company remains profitable at least.