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marx didn't give the capitalists hell. he just told the truth and they thought it was hell (slrpnk.net)
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The image is of a monitor and keypad pixelated as if from an '80s video game. The text on the monitor reads "capitalism is so dehumanizing an inherently corrupt that just honestly describing it passes for 'commie propaganda'".
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[–] 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Is the communism that you voted out the Marxist-Leninist, "people's revolution turned authoritarian state" kind? I'd get rid of that shit, too.

There are lots of other stands of anti-capitalism (eg, democratic socialism, anarchism) that are probably worth exploring. Even if we stick with capitalism but soften it with socialist policies, that's still way better than the minimally regulated capitalism we have in the US.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Haven't seen any proposal that would reconcile incentives of large number of egoistic actors. This sort of thing simply doesn't exist.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    The economy for the common good is one.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/386481877_Economy_for_the_common_good

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_for_the_Common_Good

    Discussion about 16 minutes in. https://sceneonradio.org/s5-e11-change-everything/

    Also cooperatives exists, and in many ways are more successful than their traditional capitalistic counterparts, providing a system to help "reconcile egoistic actors" by rewarding cooperation and solidarity rather than competition and utility maximization.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I listened to the discussion so far. The proposed system is still capitalism, but with some tweaks. IMO rather clumsy tweaks since there's no clear definition what common good even is.

    And instead of some point system, you can just collect taxes to finance welfare for citizens, which is exactly how EU economies work. In most cases taxation is progressive so it's not like rich CEOs aren't paying exponentially more than avg citizen.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    In the US, progressive taxation gets called communism, lol.

    But yeah. That's kinda what I meant with my original comment. The more progressive EU economies are, to my understanding anyway, outcomes from the more reformist socialist traditions - using the existing democratic government to round off the excesses of unregulated capitalism. And I would take that any day of the week.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    IMO income tax in general does more harm than good. My opinion is that government budget should be financed by taxing consumption.

    If you're trying to build your wealth and take advantage of compounding interest, income tax (especially capital gains tax) absolutely crushes it.

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