▲ 34 ▼ Bugs Rust Won't Catch | corrode Rust Consulting (corrode.dev) submitted 5 months ago by lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 11 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago what's your definition of a system's language? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sidelove@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (4 children) Wait, what? How? It compiles down to bare metal without a runtime. People write OSes and program microcontrollers with it. For any arbitrary C program, it's possible to write Rust code such that it compiles down to the same bytecode. Am I missing something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Guess i've a different understanding of systems language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago What does it mean to you then? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sidelove@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wait, I'm so confused, what's your definition of a systems language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) One you use to manipulate the system / solve problem efficiently, vs. creating GUIs. Which has heavy repercussions on what types of developers use it, how the ecosystem and language is built. One metric to distinguish them is new features / year; admin + hacker types want a stable & clever interface, companies and UI devs new features. And yeah, Rust is a bit of both of them, but has all the characteristics of the later. I have the feeling, you soon need a meta-language or extensive IDE-help to even use it. Just like C++. edit: In hindsight, this sounds more silly than i thought. There was a great article about it i can't find anymore, with the conclusion, that Rust is no systems language by that metric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago what's your definition of a system's language? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (4 children) Wait, what? How? It compiles down to bare metal without a runtime. People write OSes and program microcontrollers with it. For any arbitrary C program, it's possible to write Rust code such that it compiles down to the same bytecode. Am I missing something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Guess i've a different understanding of systems language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago What does it mean to you then? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sidelove@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wait, I'm so confused, what's your definition of a systems language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) One you use to manipulate the system / solve problem efficiently, vs. creating GUIs. Which has heavy repercussions on what types of developers use it, how the ecosystem and language is built. One metric to distinguish them is new features / year; admin + hacker types want a stable & clever interface, companies and UI devs new features. And yeah, Rust is a bit of both of them, but has all the characteristics of the later. I have the feeling, you soon need a meta-language or extensive IDE-help to even use it. Just like C++. edit: In hindsight, this sounds more silly than i thought. There was a great article about it i can't find anymore, with the conclusion, that Rust is no systems language by that metric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 months ago (3 children) Guess i've a different understanding of systems language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago What does it mean to you then? permalink fedilink source parent [–] sidelove@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wait, I'm so confused, what's your definition of a systems language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) One you use to manipulate the system / solve problem efficiently, vs. creating GUIs. Which has heavy repercussions on what types of developers use it, how the ecosystem and language is built. One metric to distinguish them is new features / year; admin + hacker types want a stable & clever interface, companies and UI devs new features. And yeah, Rust is a bit of both of them, but has all the characteristics of the later. I have the feeling, you soon need a meta-language or extensive IDE-help to even use it. Just like C++. edit: In hindsight, this sounds more silly than i thought. There was a great article about it i can't find anymore, with the conclusion, that Rust is no systems language by that metric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago What does it mean to you then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) Wait, I'm so confused, what's your definition of a systems language? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) One you use to manipulate the system / solve problem efficiently, vs. creating GUIs. Which has heavy repercussions on what types of developers use it, how the ecosystem and language is built. One metric to distinguish them is new features / year; admin + hacker types want a stable & clever interface, companies and UI devs new features. And yeah, Rust is a bit of both of them, but has all the characteristics of the later. I have the feeling, you soon need a meta-language or extensive IDE-help to even use it. Just like C++. edit: In hindsight, this sounds more silly than i thought. There was a great article about it i can't find anymore, with the conclusion, that Rust is no systems language by that metric. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) One you use to manipulate the system / solve problem efficiently, vs. creating GUIs. Which has heavy repercussions on what types of developers use it, how the ecosystem and language is built. One metric to distinguish them is new features / year; admin + hacker types want a stable & clever interface, companies and UI devs new features. And yeah, Rust is a bit of both of them, but has all the characteristics of the later. I have the feeling, you soon need a meta-language or extensive IDE-help to even use it. Just like C++. edit: In hindsight, this sounds more silly than i thought. There was a great article about it i can't find anymore, with the conclusion, that Rust is no systems language by that metric. permalink fedilink source parent