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An 82-Year-Old Congresswoman Told a Fourth Grader His Teacher Was Feeding Him Propaganda. His Essay Was About Electric Cars (www.yahoo.com)
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[–] 146 points 6 months ago (24 children)

Fun fact:

(Add 2 trillion to this pie... wait 3 trillion? No wait.. almost 4, Now? Well, add 4 trillion to this chart for the ole pedophile just for good measure...)

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  • [–] 117 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    That chart is pre-ballroom and Iran war, too.

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  • [–] 74 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    His base: "we need a president to run this country like a business!"

    Their guy: bankrupts every business he runs... including 6 casinos. (CASINOS! Fucking literal money printers...)

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    he only ever used the casino as monely laundering, like hes using with the USA. i heard some people mention if TRUMP WASNT lazy and invested index funds with his inheritence he would be ~100billionaire by now.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Mere drops in the trillion dollars buckets

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The war is starting to be more than a drop in the bucket. It's only one order of magnitude less than what is shown on the graph.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

    This is dumb as bricks. Inflation means that the most recent government will always have an outsized contribution to any national debt.

    Don't post it just because it dumps on Trump

    (And I guess I have to say I too hate trump because otherwise everyone will conclude I'm defending him somehow)

    EDIT because apparently that caveat is not enough: try running the same calculation as if it were 2016 and you were comparing Obama's contribution to the national debt to all other presidents. Or Bush. Or Clinton.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    This is adjusted to inflation.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    Oh yeah, what are the unadjusted numbers then?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Here, I'll invite you to read this document published on house.gov specifically on trumps impact to the national debt throughout America's history. It is not a "slam piece" on it's own, he does it to himself with facts and figures which is what this article gives.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    I searched for "inflation", "nominal" and "adjusted" and didn't find anything relevant.

    I believe that the $37 trillion dollars is the total debt whenever that graphic was made, and the $12.5T is the debt increase from Trump's first term, plus so far in his second term. That means you're comparing Trump's debt (issued in 2016 or later dollars) to, for example, Roosevelt's debt (issued in 1940s dollars).

    The article you link seems perfectly factual and correctly identifies that debt to GDP is more important than nominal debt. Which is why you shouldn't be using a comparison of nominal debt increases to criticise Trump.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    It's relative to the economy. The comparison is the fact that he spends frivolously when other presidents who contributed largely to the debt did so during crises. Trump CREATES crises all on his own. He campaigns on lowering debt, but does quite the opposite ten fold. So yeah, it is perfectly within the realm to criticize and compare him with all other presidents all things considering. The pie represents his failures in the simplistic of forms.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    What measure of "the economy"? The usual measure is GDP, measured in dollars, so the number is a dimensionless ratio, not a dollar amount.

    The fact that you aren't telling me how this number was arrived at, or giving any precise answers at all, is answer enough: it's not "adjusted" to anything. You made that up and are continuing to talk shit.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You clearly have no idea how any of this works, but you can keep suckling the teet of your orange king pedophile and live "happily ever after" in your delusional little bubble till the collapse. As long as you feel loved by your king, all is well, right?

    You are definitely not an economist judging by your pure lack of knowledge, and that's okay... these numbers are unfathomable anyhow.

    Since you want some kind of answer, the national debt is analyzed regularly and adjusted for inflation already and then they compare it to the ECONOMY in real time. What answer your trying to seek is impossible, the fact is; Donald John Trump is a pedophile rapist piece of shit and that's about all that really matters.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    you can keep suckling the teet of your orange king pedophile and live “happily ever after” in your delusional little bubble till the collapse. As long as you feel loved by your king, all is well, right?

    (And I guess I have to say I too hate trump because otherwise everyone will conclude I’m defending him somehow)

    Learn to read.

    It’s relative to the economy. What measure of “the economy”? and then they compare it to the ECONOMY in real time.

    So you don't know. I'm not an economist, but I clearly know more economics than you do.

    This conversation is pointless; you had your chance to demonstrate you understood, multiple times, and you failed to do so. I see my original comment got downvoted in spite of the explicit caveat because you and three other people are incapable of understanding that "these numbers criticising Trump are bogus" does not mean "I love Trump".

    Goodbye.

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