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Error in the text: 1000mW laser with 532nm wavelength which is green light.

1000nm light is infrared.

Cross posted in https://lemmy.ca/post/64612634

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[–] 13 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I mean the whole point of flock is that they can track you everywhere. Destroying their cameras doesn't destroy the footage.

If you destroy their cameras they will just trace your movements backwards until they find a way to identify you.

You need to find a way to do it surreptitiously so it's not clear who is doing it, and they won't be able to figure it out by process of elimination by seeing who is commonly present when a camera iss destroyed.

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  • [–] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    If this were really true, there would be no crime right now. Nancy Guthrie has been missing for months now despite the perpetrator being caught on camera in an affluent neighborhood where there would be many Ring, Flock etc. cameras. These companies overpromise and underdeliver as they all do. Their main purpose is get people to pay them. They are much less competent than they claim to be.

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  • [–] 25 points 6 months ago

    The easiest way to best an opponent is to always assume they have the upper hand. If flock cameras are half as good as they say they are then approaching it as if it were twice as good means it will be good enough to match.

    Being over prepared will never cost you as much as being under prepared.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Possibly, but I don't wanna risk my freedom on them being incompetent rather than corrupt.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I think drone usage could solve some issues.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

    Idk, I think they can probably do a reasonable job tracing a drone back to it's takeoff location, and then tracking the person who brought it there back to their home, with decent coverage.

    That said I don't know if I'm overestimating their ability regarding machine learning and AI - this is probably fairly labour intensive unless they've done a good job preparing all their data and they have plenty of compute.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I mean if they can track a car around the city using their cameras, they can probably do the same for a drone. Even if you fly up out of view they could look for drones in a radius flying down into view and connect the dots.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    One of the big controversies is that these companies do have access to cameras on private property, using things like ring doorbell cameras.
    And depending on conditions, you can still track the movement of something smaller than a pixel. Smaller than a pixel doesn't mean invisible, it affects the color of that pixel and you can track the movement of the disrupted pixel.
    And you have to actually get close enough you the camera lens to damage it, so there is continuity; they're not just looking at a strange color pixel and leaping to the conclusion that it is a drone, they see the drone flying off into the distance (in reverse) and cross reference it with other cameras to track the movement at a distance.

    It's a lot of effort, but protecting the investments of the wealthy is one of the only things that will mobilize both the finances of the wealthy and the actual effort of the police.

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