libre_warrior comments on Veganism is Leftism

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

That only applies to industrail scale farming which Alaknar has taken distance away from in this thread.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I mean I'm not super opposed to non-factory farms but, just as 2 examples, chickens for meat grow so quickly that they can barely stand and their hearts literally can't keep up and they end up extremely sick and often just dying of heart attacks. Egg laying chickens are bred to essentially be constantly ovulating, which can't be great for their health or well-being, but this one's harder to say.

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[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I agree with you about that it is horrific. No animal should suffer that. And I do see that the machine is incentivizing this through merciless efficiency.

But just because it is incentivized doesn't mean a farmer has to be ruled by the machine. They don't have to be ruled by efficiency. They can choose to care for their animals instead of disregarding their gleedity.

This necessarily means there will be much less meat, but the meat that is produced will come from animals that has had a good life, instead of being tortured throughout their life.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

I'm just saying those are the breeds we have now, and we would basically have to selectively breed less productive animals, which I don't see happening any time soon.

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[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 1 point 6 months ago

As long as we bond with the machine, you are right, that will be a reality. But it is when we relearn to appreciate independence that we can move beyond the time of shame.

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