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[–] 21 points 6 months ago (5 children)

That's a good moral stance, credit where it's due. Yet I don't know how practical it is to take the word of a Russian mayor at face value, with no input from Ukrainian command.

One other thing that doesn't sit well with me is the way onlookers treat Ukraine as their 'protagonist' in this story because they're a plucky underdog with a morally just logic for defense. I think it puts too much on Ukraine to hold them to the standards we would/should be holding our own countries, many of which no saints.

It doesn't sound like Ukraine to just attack civilians, that doesn't help their war aims. Attacking civilians is something Russia does because it does relate to their war aims; namely, genocide.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, there’s no point in targeting civilians in Russia. At this point at least. I’m very saddened by this realisation. But at least we can hope for a wonderful civil war in Russia once they lose this war, can’t we?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    I don't know if there's much hope even in a general collapse of the government. You go into a revolution with the factions you've got, not the ones you want, and Russians are about as badly propagandized and undereducated as Americans. I wouldn't have much excitement about a civil war in either country right now. That said, I'd definitely say it's in the cards mid to long term.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Im not even attacking Ukraine, or at least it wasn't my intent. I just think it's in poor taste to celebrate this kind of news, be it fake or real.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I think we agree there. Highly propagandized, downtrodden civilians of authoritarian regimes carry little blame for their rulers' decisions, and ultimately most of us are just caught up in the gears of history. Rules of this !c are against sympathy for 'enemy combatants', not civilians after all.

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