▲ 1006 ▼ Utah first state to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs — law goes into effect, designed to prevent bypassing age checks (www.tomshardware.com) submitted 6 months ago by LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 330 comments fedilink hide all child comments 🤬 5 🤣 1
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (4 children) Then why won’t the US let other countries do digital services taxes. They can’t have it both ways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (3 children) The same reason that sites like Anna's Archive and The Pirate Bay exist. State and Federal laws don't apply to other countries without an explicit treaty or agreement where a country agrees to enforce those laws on behalf of the other. Utah could issue fines for a foreign company but they would have no way to collect because the company doesn't own any assets in any location that would be required to follow a court order to seize their assets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago (2 children) So, what you're saying is this law will encourage setting up shop somewhere without reciprocal agreements, which will encourage countries to lapse said agreements, weakening US soft power yet more. Sounds like a win. Shame so many of the world's governments have a hard on for de-anonymizing the internet though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The EU is doing ID verification too, it's essentially bifurcating the Internet into the new 'We know exactly who you are' Internet and the old, possibly soon to be outlawed, wild wild west Internet that we're on today where you can remain pseudoanonymous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Yup, and something of value (especially to free speech) is being lost. My hope is "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, still applies when enough governments go at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (3 children) The same reason that sites like Anna's Archive and The Pirate Bay exist. State and Federal laws don't apply to other countries without an explicit treaty or agreement where a country agrees to enforce those laws on behalf of the other. Utah could issue fines for a foreign company but they would have no way to collect because the company doesn't own any assets in any location that would be required to follow a court order to seize their assets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago (2 children) So, what you're saying is this law will encourage setting up shop somewhere without reciprocal agreements, which will encourage countries to lapse said agreements, weakening US soft power yet more. Sounds like a win. Shame so many of the world's governments have a hard on for de-anonymizing the internet though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The EU is doing ID verification too, it's essentially bifurcating the Internet into the new 'We know exactly who you are' Internet and the old, possibly soon to be outlawed, wild wild west Internet that we're on today where you can remain pseudoanonymous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Yup, and something of value (especially to free speech) is being lost. My hope is "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, still applies when enough governments go at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago (2 children) So, what you're saying is this law will encourage setting up shop somewhere without reciprocal agreements, which will encourage countries to lapse said agreements, weakening US soft power yet more. Sounds like a win. Shame so many of the world's governments have a hard on for de-anonymizing the internet though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The EU is doing ID verification too, it's essentially bifurcating the Internet into the new 'We know exactly who you are' Internet and the old, possibly soon to be outlawed, wild wild west Internet that we're on today where you can remain pseudoanonymous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Yup, and something of value (especially to free speech) is being lost. My hope is "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, still applies when enough governments go at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) The EU is doing ID verification too, it's essentially bifurcating the Internet into the new 'We know exactly who you are' Internet and the old, possibly soon to be outlawed, wild wild west Internet that we're on today where you can remain pseudoanonymous. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Yup, and something of value (especially to free speech) is being lost. My hope is "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, still applies when enough governments go at it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Yup, and something of value (especially to free speech) is being lost. My hope is "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, still applies when enough governments go at it. permalink fedilink source parent