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"cuz, y'know, China bad." (lemmy.ml)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[+] -12 points 6 months ago (24 children)

I need it to stop doing evil things first. I am all for reducing the evil, less evil is always great and ill always vote for a lesser evil. But dont expect me to a government structure good if it is still doing evil things. Ill call a politician good if they want to decrease the evil. But I will not call a country good if its still evil.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    I have a question, what is your opinion on lesser evil? Is America the lesser evil in your opinion?

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  • [+] -11 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    America is evil. There are politicians who are lesser evils within the usa. They dont make the US not evil, just less evil.

    I don't know individual politicians in china, but im sure there are plenty of lesser evil politicians there. That doesnt mean china isnt also doing evil things. I hope the evil reduces there. And in the usa. And everywhere else.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    What are the evil things that China is doing? And on that note, what are these "lesser evil" politicians? Are you equating China as on the same level of evil as the US?

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  • [+] -11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The Uyghurs genocide that’s ongoing was shoved down our throats for years yet you people forget? Uh huh.

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  • [+] -18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Here's two examples of evil things that China is doing:
    Persecution of Uyghurs in China
    Internet censorship in China

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    lol did you just google "evil things china does" and paste the first wikipedia links you find?

    https://lemmy.ml/post/46090169 - A good article on Uyghurs.

    Or if you want you can ask Cowbee and they'll happily give you walls upon walls of information and sources of actual facts on China that you can then proceed to ignore.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Awww, baby's first analysis! Do the good guys wear the white hats (and the bad guys the black hats) so you know exactly who they are?

    Good grief. You presumably have a brain, please try and use it. This is no way to have an adult conversation.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The world is super complicated and nuanced and im sick of people pretending that china is this bastion of good governance and im sick of people pretending that Harris would have been just as bad as trump. If you cant get on board with that, block me

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    It's wild to me that grown adults still use "good" and "evil" as an actual heuristic

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Of course evil is an actual heuristic - what point are you trying to make here?

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    It's a useless heuristic, because it's a fuckin magical metaphysical one. If you're not a christian who believes in a spirit world, then stop letting the church define reality for you. Good and evil as concepts have no more valence on physical reality than karma or sin, and have no power to explain why things happen.

    Children think in good and evil. Adults think in cause and effect. Be scientific.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago

    Does River think their special for calling an unspecified murder a cause and effect instead of an evil? I dont think in a Christian way. I still think its fucking normal to call shit evil instead of explaining how the effects of murder are painful for the following litany of reasons

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  • [+] -10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    This whole post is brigaded. No where on the internet is safe.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Brigaded by whom?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    If anything, done by people like them. A ML user posted this in ML itself, some of the folks from other instances come in with bad faith and/or bullcrap arguments, other ML users come in to defend and debunk, and we're apparently the ones brigading in our own space.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    Colonizer attitude, these belligerent natives are invading their own land just because we're here shitting it up, how intolerant of them, something needs to be done to end this barbaric inexplicable hostility.

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