Political Memes

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works [S] 22 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Unfortunately, there are people who don't believe her. Whether they're bots or foreign actors sowing chaos, that's hard to say.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

Foreign actors ain't the ones who elected this putrid piece of human refuse to the highest office in the land TWICE. It's the great retardnation of America.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works [S] 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Yes, there is a huge percentage of the American people that were conned. Also, he cheated his ass off this last time as well. He did it mostly legally by planting stooges that rigged the elections in various ways into small governments. But he also admitted to fucking with the machines by saying he had the election won, don't worry months before the election.

I'm not sure of how close it would have been without the above things happening. Also, most people don't realize that it's usually 1-2% of who voted who decide the election. Not a huge amount of people comparatively speaking.

2020

Trump: 74,223,975
Biden: 81,283,501

2024

Trump: 77,303,568 votes
Harris: 75,019,230

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

You miss the point.

The finer points of the crazy US electoral system shouldn't even enter into any of this: the single, most damning fact in both elections is that 77 MILLION morons voted for Trump, when it should have been 77 THOUSAND at the most if the population had a normal median IQ.

That's the problem. That many people voting for this turd the first time can be construed as a mistake, or a con, or something forgivable. But whoever voted for this guy after his felony convictions, his sex-related convictions, lying 30,573 times to the American public during his first term, and after J6 is either certifiably insane or wanted this shit in the White House.

In other words, at least 22% of the total US population is either Nazi adjacent, completely unconcerned by morality and decency, or completely retarded. Probably all three.

Trump isn't a disease. He's a symptom. And the 22% will do it again - guaranteed.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works [S] 12 points 6 months ago* (3 children)

It's happening all over the world. Russia hasn't had a fair election in eons. Orban being ousted was a breath of fresh air, but every single major world power has people almost winning or winning from the far right. *Japan has a far right PM.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I can well believe that the entire world is becoming dumb. But the US sure is leading the charge.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works [S] 5 points 6 months ago

I would say that we're all equally dumb. If other countries don't see America as a warning sign and still vote far right, that's pretty fucking dumb. For example,

Brexit was a fiasco that was based on an unofficial vote and then somehow got pushed through.
How do the Russian citizens keep putting up with Putin? That started way before the US. Putin went to war with Ukraine and said it would take 3 days. Where are we at now?
China has a huge population, they go along.
Japan, how are you going backwards on rights for your citizens.

Bottom line, it's really hard to resist authoritarian regimes once they're in power. The propaganda alone is huge and the oligarch money is controlling everything.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago

Japan has a far right PM.

And even she hates Trump.

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[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago

I find it funny that the response to "the election machines were rigged" is "that shouldn't matter as long as more people vote against him".

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago

most damning fact in both elections is that 77 MILLION morons voted for Trump

Not only voted for him, but also repeat his lies, buy into his crypto and other fraudulent fundraising schemes, buy his merch (seriously, outside of an election period, who buys politician's merch?), and are somehow convinced that the damage he is doing to their country is justified.

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[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago

Your language is ableist and anti-neurodivergent good sir/maam. Otherwise I agree

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

All they had to do was flip the top race in only seven swing states. That's how they ended up with millions of ballots with straight Democrat tickets, except Trump at the top. NOBODY votes that way.

They had two experienced, professional hacking teams on the case, of course it was rigged.

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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago

I hate to say it but to core MAGA, having undeniable proof that he molested kids doesn't matter.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

Probably domestic actors at this point.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

He's going to eventually go down hard, and all those collaborators who helped him need to go down, too.

We can accept nothing less than the full, total crushing of MAGA, and it's total purge from our government, and that includes ANYONE who showed any support of MAGA in any way. Future dipshits will know that supporting treason is a very dangerous career move.

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[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I agree, but I am afraid democrats if they ever regain power will just say we need to move on and nothing will happen. They have done it before and I expect they will do it again.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

If we tell them that we expect them to do nothing as usual, that's exactly what they'll do. If you indicate that we'll accept their political malpractice AGAIN, that's what they'll do, AGAIN. They are politicians they are inherently lazy and stupid, and they will always take the path of least resistance, so let's not make cowardice easy for them.

We are in unprecedented times, and it will require unprecedented solutions. We can't fall back on the predictable patterns that got us here. Any politicians who attempt to use their cowardly strategies that have already proven to be failures over and over need to be removed immediately.

We cannot, and will not accept that under any circumstances. Any Democrat who attempts to defend or support MAGA traitors when this over will be considered a collaborator and a traitor themselves, and tossed into the pile of indictments, too.

If you aren't ferociously anti-MAGA, then you're MAGA.

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[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I get that but since when do democrats listen to their base? Last I checked they can't even oppose genocide and war even though their base wants them to.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 point 6 months ago

That's changing. They just had a vote on aid to Israel, and most Dems opposed it for the first time. Not Schmuck Schumer, of course. Israel is his main priority, not American citizens, and certainly not his NY State constituents.

Schmuckie-boy aside, the Dems are starting to listen. Last Fall, they abandoned their shutdown when it hit the airports, and their political donors started screaming. Dem constituents went ape shit, and it scared the crap out of the politicians. This year, when the shutdown hit the airports, they stepped back and let chaos reign. That was a direct result of listening to voter outrage after last fall.

The Dems are starting to run scared of the citizens, but the MAGAs are still too stupid to figure it out. They'll keep doubling down on their virtuosic incompetence and arrogance to their doom. They're the type who will keep yelling defiantly as the noose is placed over their neck and the lever is pulled, with their last words ending in mid-sentence.

Let's oblige them.