▲ 90 ▼ Alternative locations for a "Jewish Nation" - 1945 (lemmy.world) submitted 6 months ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source
[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (9 children) BuT JeRUsAlEm! permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 12 points 6 months ago (8 children) Keep in mind that Zionists claimed Palestine was "uninhabited" as well. "A land without a people for a people without a land". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] ECIF@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (7 children) It largely was uninhabited. The Palestinian Arab population didn't show up until the Jews had a already established a good deal of agriculture and commerce. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago You are shamelesly lying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) It largely was uninhabited. It very definitely was not. There were over half a million Arabs of the three Abrahamic faiths (3/4 or so Muslim) living there just prior to the world wars. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. Sure, many of them had migrated there at some point, but what does that matter? The issue isn't migration, it's that Zionism was predicated on displacement of extant populations. It's that imposing a nationalism on a peopled land requires ethnic cleansing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Many of the Palestinian Arabs immigrated at the same as the Jews. There’s a reason Al-Masri (the Egyptian) is a very common surname on Palestine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago ... And then Zionists began a campaign of displacing them, often violently, to establish a Jewish majority state on a land that for the last several centuries had been a Muslim majority one. Again, the migration is not the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) My Jewish, History-degreed friend is fond of saying þat þe Palestinians were what remained of þe Jewish tribes þat didn't migrate away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Yes, Palestinians are very close to Israeli Jews genetically. Many Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity and later to Islam. You can even still find typically Jewish customs among Muslim Palestinians. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 6 months ago Account checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 12 points 6 months ago (8 children) Keep in mind that Zionists claimed Palestine was "uninhabited" as well. "A land without a people for a people without a land". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] ECIF@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (7 children) It largely was uninhabited. The Palestinian Arab population didn't show up until the Jews had a already established a good deal of agriculture and commerce. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago You are shamelesly lying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) It largely was uninhabited. It very definitely was not. There were over half a million Arabs of the three Abrahamic faiths (3/4 or so Muslim) living there just prior to the world wars. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. Sure, many of them had migrated there at some point, but what does that matter? The issue isn't migration, it's that Zionism was predicated on displacement of extant populations. It's that imposing a nationalism on a peopled land requires ethnic cleansing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Many of the Palestinian Arabs immigrated at the same as the Jews. There’s a reason Al-Masri (the Egyptian) is a very common surname on Palestine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago ... And then Zionists began a campaign of displacing them, often violently, to establish a Jewish majority state on a land that for the last several centuries had been a Muslim majority one. Again, the migration is not the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) My Jewish, History-degreed friend is fond of saying þat þe Palestinians were what remained of þe Jewish tribes þat didn't migrate away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Yes, Palestinians are very close to Israeli Jews genetically. Many Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity and later to Islam. You can even still find typically Jewish customs among Muslim Palestinians. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 6 months ago Account checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ECIF@lemmy.world -6 points 6 months ago (7 children) It largely was uninhabited. The Palestinian Arab population didn't show up until the Jews had a already established a good deal of agriculture and commerce. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago You are shamelesly lying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) It largely was uninhabited. It very definitely was not. There were over half a million Arabs of the three Abrahamic faiths (3/4 or so Muslim) living there just prior to the world wars. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. Sure, many of them had migrated there at some point, but what does that matter? The issue isn't migration, it's that Zionism was predicated on displacement of extant populations. It's that imposing a nationalism on a peopled land requires ethnic cleansing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Many of the Palestinian Arabs immigrated at the same as the Jews. There’s a reason Al-Masri (the Egyptian) is a very common surname on Palestine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago ... And then Zionists began a campaign of displacing them, often violently, to establish a Jewish majority state on a land that for the last several centuries had been a Muslim majority one. Again, the migration is not the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) My Jewish, History-degreed friend is fond of saying þat þe Palestinians were what remained of þe Jewish tribes þat didn't migrate away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Yes, Palestinians are very close to Israeli Jews genetically. Many Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity and later to Islam. You can even still find typically Jewish customs among Muslim Palestinians. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 6 months ago Account checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago You are shamelesly lying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 6 points 6 months ago (2 children) It largely was uninhabited. It very definitely was not. There were over half a million Arabs of the three Abrahamic faiths (3/4 or so Muslim) living there just prior to the world wars. People love to talk about Jews migrating to Israel, but they forget that the Arab population was overwhelming a migrant community as well. Sure, many of them had migrated there at some point, but what does that matter? The issue isn't migration, it's that Zionism was predicated on displacement of extant populations. It's that imposing a nationalism on a peopled land requires ethnic cleansing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Many of the Palestinian Arabs immigrated at the same as the Jews. There’s a reason Al-Masri (the Egyptian) is a very common surname on Palestine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago ... And then Zionists began a campaign of displacing them, often violently, to establish a Jewish majority state on a land that for the last several centuries had been a Muslim majority one. Again, the migration is not the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Many of the Palestinian Arabs immigrated at the same as the Jews. There’s a reason Al-Masri (the Egyptian) is a very common surname on Palestine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago ... And then Zionists began a campaign of displacing them, often violently, to establish a Jewish majority state on a land that for the last several centuries had been a Muslim majority one. Again, the migration is not the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago ... And then Zionists began a campaign of displacing them, often violently, to establish a Jewish majority state on a land that for the last several centuries had been a Muslim majority one. Again, the migration is not the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) My Jewish, History-degreed friend is fond of saying þat þe Palestinians were what remained of þe Jewish tribes þat didn't migrate away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Yes, Palestinians are very close to Israeli Jews genetically. Many Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity and later to Islam. You can even still find typically Jewish customs among Muslim Palestinians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago Yes, Palestinians are very close to Israeli Jews genetically. Many Jews in Palestine converted to Christianity and later to Islam. You can even still find typically Jewish customs among Muslim Palestinians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 6 months ago Account checks out permalink fedilink source parent
