▲ 90 ▼ Alternative locations for a "Jewish Nation" - 1945 (lemmy.world) submitted 6 months ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz 67 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source
[+] username_1@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 months ago (8 children) It looks like they were trying to avoid areas with significant existing/indigenous populations. The proposed size of roughly 50,000 square miles is slightly larger than Iceland is, and there would be a sizeable displaced or second-class local population, which it seems like this author was trying to avoid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] username_1@programming.dev 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zout@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago That's why it's not on this list. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago 'They' being the people who wrote this publication, not the people who actually decided to set up modern-day Israel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrdown@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (4 children) Jews only owned 9% of land and was disperced so there was 91% of the land populated by the indigenous palestinians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) That assumes that all land was owned/populated by someone, which is not necessarily true. I don't know enough about it to say. Regardless, the point is that the people writing this publication seemed to care about not taking land from existing peoples - the same is not so true for when Israel was actually founded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) Which of the proposed location was not populated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) The one between Western Australia and the Northern Territory is pretty empty. I would hazard a guess at some of the Russia/China areas. Bear in mind that we're talking empty during the 1940s, not today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 months ago (8 children) It looks like they were trying to avoid areas with significant existing/indigenous populations. The proposed size of roughly 50,000 square miles is slightly larger than Iceland is, and there would be a sizeable displaced or second-class local population, which it seems like this author was trying to avoid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] username_1@programming.dev 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zout@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago That's why it's not on this list. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago 'They' being the people who wrote this publication, not the people who actually decided to set up modern-day Israel. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrdown@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (4 children) Jews only owned 9% of land and was disperced so there was 91% of the land populated by the indigenous palestinians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) That assumes that all land was owned/populated by someone, which is not necessarily true. I don't know enough about it to say. Regardless, the point is that the people writing this publication seemed to care about not taking land from existing peoples - the same is not so true for when Israel was actually founded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) Which of the proposed location was not populated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) The one between Western Australia and the Northern Territory is pretty empty. I would hazard a guess at some of the Russia/China areas. Bear in mind that we're talking empty during the 1940s, not today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
[+] username_1@programming.dev 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zout@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago That's why it's not on this list. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago 'They' being the people who wrote this publication, not the people who actually decided to set up modern-day Israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zout@fedia.io 12 points 6 months ago That's why it's not on this list. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago 'They' being the people who wrote this publication, not the people who actually decided to set up modern-day Israel. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (4 children) Jews only owned 9% of land and was disperced so there was 91% of the land populated by the indigenous palestinians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) That assumes that all land was owned/populated by someone, which is not necessarily true. I don't know enough about it to say. Regardless, the point is that the people writing this publication seemed to care about not taking land from existing peoples - the same is not so true for when Israel was actually founded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) Which of the proposed location was not populated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) The one between Western Australia and the Northern Territory is pretty empty. I would hazard a guess at some of the Russia/China areas. Bear in mind that we're talking empty during the 1940s, not today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago (3 children) That assumes that all land was owned/populated by someone, which is not necessarily true. I don't know enough about it to say. Regardless, the point is that the people writing this publication seemed to care about not taking land from existing peoples - the same is not so true for when Israel was actually founded. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) Which of the proposed location was not populated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) The one between Western Australia and the Northern Territory is pretty empty. I would hazard a guess at some of the Russia/China areas. Bear in mind that we're talking empty during the 1940s, not today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) Which of the proposed location was not populated? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) The one between Western Australia and the Northern Territory is pretty empty. I would hazard a guess at some of the Russia/China areas. Bear in mind that we're talking empty during the 1940s, not today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 point 6 months ago* (1 child) The one between Western Australia and the Northern Territory is pretty empty. I would hazard a guess at some of the Russia/China areas. Bear in mind that we're talking empty during the 1940s, not today. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* There was actually multiple tribes in western Australia during the creation of the proposal. It was indeed inhabited. The same problem exists in all the proposals. You can't never be sure the other religious and ethnic group would in the future outgrow the jews permalink fedilink source parent
