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[–] 3 points 7 months ago* (30 children)

OK. So some asshole shoots up a local politician's house, while he and his eight year old son are inside. Something that:

  • Has only increased support for said politician
  • Has strengthened his resolve to support said data center
  • Will inevitably be used as evidence that anti-AI people are nuts
  • Could easily have ended in the murder of a child, because, again, he was in the house this person indiscriminately fired into

And the reaction here is 'good?'

If you honestly believe this way, you have been dangerously radicalized. Get help before you hurt someone.

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  • [–] 51 points 7 months ago* (7 children)

    Hey I won't say good, but how about indifferent? Crocodile tears about his family do nothing for me when his policies are bound to wreck a large portion of his constituents putting out of work and on the streets, on a systematic scale. Not to even mention the environmental catastrophe he's invited in, for a meager $2.5M.

    Yeah.. Indifferent. Numb. Sucks for him. Will suck even worse for everyone else soon.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I really wouldn't care if people were shrugging. It's the gleeful celebration that's getting to me.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Without this we would be pretty short on 'wins' right now.

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  • [+] -10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    We could do with fewer "wins" that involve shooting at people and their kids.

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  • [–] 74 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You make good points but when politicians don't listen to people and those people get desperate they also get violent. If politicians didn't want to get shot at they shouldn't have created a world in which that sounds like a good idea to damn near half the population. Actions have consequences and the people in charge have been ignoring problems for a long time. Sooner or later that's going to bite them in the ass in one way or another.

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  • [+] -46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    The same logic used by people who murder abortion doctors, nice. I'm sure this guy's eight year old son deserved it, too. Again--seek help.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago

    Lol, seek help from whom exactly? Medical professionals in the US are pretty much required to report any individual which may pose a danger to themselves or others to the police. And the US police pretty much shoots first and sprinkles some evidence later.

    Who exactly do you think is going to help people who are being radicalized by the complete breakdown of the services meant to help them?

    You say "seek help" as if there's still something there to give it. And even if there was, can one even afford help anymore?

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  • [–] 34 points 7 months ago

    You're welcome to your opinions on the topic but I don't think you can refute anything I said. Desperate people often get violent and there are a lot of desperate people out there. That's just the state of the world.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago

    If you honestly believe this way, you have been dangerously radicalized.

    Sorry, cheering for political violence is just normal now. The right has been pushing and supporting political violence so hard that its...just not radical anymore.

    Sure, this time it might not have been somebody on the right, but it doesn't really matter. Once political violence becomes normal, it becomes normal.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 7 months ago* (8 children)

    He is killing children right now

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    By passing every shitty policy he can that fucks over everyone but these tech bros. He making housing and feeding people harder and harder. How else can you look at it?

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  • [+] -14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    So, that's a pretty vague "he's doing something that I consider bad and can be connected in some way to someone eventually dying" criterion.

    If that's all it takes for you to consider it okay to shoot someone's children we're in for a pretty bloody time.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I did not say it was okay to kill children.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    So are you saying the shooter was a bad guy and in the wrong, then? That it's not okay to shoot at a guy's kids because you disagree with him over data center policy?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)
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    You said "he is killing children right now," do you think that's targeted? These guys go "muahaha, I'm going to build a data center and it'll kill so many children! Through vague and indirect means!"

    This is the real world, not Captain Planet and the Planeteers.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    "We have to kill AI artist" keeps getting repeated and whenever someone complains the response is "it's just a meme bro." Well, that's a step along the path that leads here. Repeat a slogan long enough and loudly enough and someone ends up thinking it's social permission.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Literally never seen "we have to kill AI artists" said in any space on the internet. Surely you could link to an example of this if it keeps getting repeated.

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    You can definitely find an example of someone saying literally anything on the internet.

    Seems like an isolated and niche Twitter/Reddit thing. The vote/like counts that Know Your Meme reports for the posts are very low for those platforms so they would not have appeared on the front page or general feeds, and could not be construed as popular. That Know Your Meme page even shows examples of contradictory posts that push back against it, like:

    Seems pretty overstated.

    Deny. Defend. Depose.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You can definitely find an example of someone saying literally anything on the internet.

    Your previous comment was:

    Literally never seen "we have to kill AI artists" said in any space on the internet.

    That's the most extreme and instant 180 degree switch in direction I've seen in a long time.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Saying that I haven't ever seen it and asking for examples is not contradictory to the fact that you can find an example of one person saying pretty much anything.

    You're reaching pretty far. How are people supposed to act when they ask for more information about something and receive it? They should ignore new information, or they shouldn't ask in the first place?

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