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Punish the Democrats, she says (discuss.online)
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[+] -8 points 7 months ago* (20 children)

Ok then if you're right why was Netanyahu mad at Biden? Why did he want Trump to win? Because there's no such thing as unlimited support and then wanting to remove the person you're getting unlimited support from

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (18 children)

    Do you understand that a lot of politics is theater? You have to watch what people actually do, not what they pretend.

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  • [+] -9 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    This is a russian/eastern perspective. Theater has no effect on real life politics does. They are NOT the same. If you act like they are you are part of the problem.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    This is a russian/eastern perspective.

    No its not. This is the plain western world reality that politicians lie and posture. If you think you can trust what they say then I dont know what to tell you.

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  • [+] -6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Yes they lie but that is not theater. That is a lie. Do you not know the difference? This kind of mindset is exactly what im talking about.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    In Biden/Harris's case of supporting the zionists while pretending to be against what they are doing-- with nonsense like his idiotic and pointless floating dock, and his very temporary freeze on one type of munition-- "lies vs theater" seems to me to be a distinction without a difference.

    And do you remember all the times we heard that Biden and Harris were negotiating feverishly with netenyahu and talking about their concerns, for the Israelis to then say Biden never called them and there has been no communication at all? So how do you see that distinction between lies and theater matters at all?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    This is a russian/eastern perspective

    Pro-genocide centrists (there is no other kind) say this about everyone who disagrees with them on their only policy.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    You can not be anti genocide and actively assist Republicans in making the genocide worse.

    If you genuinely oppose genocide you're obligated to oppose those who want to make it worse, and yet you're helping them

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago* (5 children)

    No i say this to anyone trying to downplay the severity of political involvement. The fact you dont understand this is exactly why

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    The fact you dont understand this is exactly why

    I love how centrists imagine that people don't understand them when they're just not buying their flimsy justification for genocide support.

    If centrists wanted anything more than they wanted genocide, they would actually have fought for something harder than they did for genocide. I don't think any of you ever will.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I'm pretty sure you'll call the students who protested centrists for not being successful enough too

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Centrists blocked progress and supported genocide. Centrists have never been more successful at the only things centrists are for.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Ok so then why are you refusing to look at what people actually did?

    Edit: Trump has been pushing for ethnic cleansing so he could have waterfront casinos and you guys love him

    You're all a bunch of traitors

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I think because your definition of "what people actually did" and mine differs a lot. Either that or we are talking past each other.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago

    Yeah, your crowd decided to help Republicans guarantee more people got killed and tortured.

    But you're pretending you have no responsibility for the consequences of your actions because you're such an ideologically pure idealist

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago*

    Because Biden's base was less pro-genocide, so no matter what Biden himself did, strategically the republicans would always be a safer bet.

    There was no level of support the dems could offer that would have caused Netanyahu to support them over the republicans.

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