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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

TACO

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -15 points 7 months ago (35 children)

All offense intended: you're a ghoul. Check yourself. It's a misery when Russian troops die for corrupt leaders and it's a misery when Chinese troops die for corrupt leaders and it's a misery when American troops die for corrupt leaders. Your delight in this situation is wrong and you should be ashamed. You've bought into a malicious, mean-minded, impoverished and cold mindset and you sound exactly like a brainwashed MAGA.

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[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"Every time my bullet fells a Nazi I have the feeling that I have saved lives. Any people who have had Nazis trampling over their land know that. For the Nazis kill children, women, old men. To let a Nazi remain alive in your land is to abet the murder of your own people. Only the dead Nazi can he trusted to leave the innocent unharmed. Every Hitlerite killed is a step forward on the road to the liberation of mankind." —Lyudmila Pavlichenko

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Whatever argument you need to make to be cheering for dead kids, I guess.

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[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

cheering? if the situation continues I'll be killing and being killed by those "kids"

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[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago (18 children)

There’s an immense difference between a conscripted person dying in a war versus a volunteer soldier dying in an aggressive war of choice. You’re arguing for sympathy for the modern equivalent of the fucking SS on their way to roll through Eastern Europe

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -12 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Do you REALLY think everyone in the US military joined up during trump and is a raging Republican? If you do, what a strange world you live in.

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[–] 9skyguy0@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Really then?

Why don't we check in with the dead Afghani and Iraqi civilians killed before and during US occupation?

Why don't we check in with Serbia, still dealing with depleted uranium from US weapons?

Why don't we check in with Vietnam, still dealing with Agent Orange and other fallout in the aftermath of their liberation after all this time?

How about over in Korea, where the US dropped more bombs there than during WW2?

Why don't we see how things have fared in The Philippines after the US placed them under new management after seizing them from Spain in a war of aggression?

There are plenty more examples in the gaps between and further back in time. The only ghoul here is you.

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -8 points 7 months ago (9 children)

The US military takes enlistees at 17 and a half years old. Usually from poor families.

But go ahead and tell me about how you're mad at people killing children.

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (7 children)

But go ahead and tell me about how you’re mad at people killing children.

I can't believe this is a real sentence

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

It's a parody of themselves LMAO

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[–] 9skyguy0@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

At last we see the ghoul's true colors.

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You're happy to see poor enlisted kids die for rich old assholes. It's not a hard concept.

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

Look at these poor enlisted kids. I can't imagine what kind of monster would be happy to see them die.

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Unironically? Some of those were kids, back then. The photos make them look a lot older because they were tied, hungry, dehydrated, and filthy. Kids were lying about their age far more successfully then than now.

But you're just proving my point: you like seeing dead kids fighting for old men. As long as they're the right dead kids for your political compas.

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago*

Lol okay, so at this point you'd rather try to rehabilitate nazis (i specifically searched for pictures of the SS during Operation Barbarossa, so these are committed ideological nazis in the middle of a genocide of 21 million people) than accept the victims of the US empire as being fully human and deserving of the right to kill in self defense.

This is a level of fascist apologia masquerading as enlightened pacifism I have hitherto never witnessed before, and you yourself are a worm of titanic proportions.

At this point you should monetize it and start writing op-eds for the NYT about how it's wrong to celebrate when IDF soldiers get got, you're already doing it for free for the Waffen SS.

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[–] 9skyguy0@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago*

You are willfully ignorant to the fact every crime, atrocity, and act of aggression was willingly committed and/or abetted by soldiers who enlisted on their own free will. This is what you support. It's not a hard concept.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The US military takes enlistees at 17 and a half years old. Usually from poor families.

I believe the US lets people enlist at 17 (with parental consent) but they don't deploy them to combat before they're 18.

I encourage you to you watch this movie, btw.

And see also:

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago*

I think their job is to follow orders from the same people who ordered them to kill a million Iraqis.

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[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Even the most vote-blue-no-matter-who Democrat ideology is fundamentally imperialist and genocidal. Don’t kid yourself. That’s always been the function of the US military

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

....but not every other army on earth?

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

CORRECT

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -7 points 7 months ago

Doubt.

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[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

The rest of the world isn’t in a state of perpetual war. The rest of the world isn’t toppling governments to install subservient leaders. The rest of the world doesn’t have 800+ military bases around the world. That’s just the US and NATO. They are the imperial core and they operate differently from the countries that are anti imperialist or being imperialized. Hope that helps

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago* (4 children)

Its actually good when Wehrmacht troops are killed before they can slaughter civillians. As for my feelings about it, I would classify it as more relief than delight, although delight at the impending fall of the burger Reich is also a part of it.

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Look in the mirror: if you're happy to see someone dead you are EXACTLY THE SAME as someone who joined up.

Or worse, because lots of folks join with the expectations that they will not be asked to kill unless it's reasonable, and will do some good. You're just happy to see people you don't like it understand dead. Congratulations! It's you!

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago*

Look in the mirror: if you’re happy to see someone dead you are EXACTLY THE SAME as someone who joined up.

This is what the lingering DNA of a church-dominated society does to people's brains. "All violence is morally equivalent, and all feelings about that violence are morally equivalent" is a fairy tale for children meant to condition them into compliance with an indefensibly monstrous social order by using metaphysics to equate the violence of oppression with the violence of liberation. It's only one or two steps removed from "If you celebrate violence against the King's men, you are a knave in the eyes of God." It's religious magical thinking that only serves the powerful. Not only is this idea of automatic equivalence stupid and unscientific, it also runs contrary to the way people actually exist in the actual world. In the actual world, people are happy for the peace that comes when a slaughterer's rampage is ended. Or do you think that Palestinian resistance fighters are somehow "the same" as the IDF fascists they battle? Do you think they take no delight in the moment of the kill?

Deeply stunted and unserious view on violence, the empire thanks you for your servility masquerading as "moral uprightness". While you claim the moral high ground, the enemy claims the actual high ground and rains death on you.

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

I don't remember US troops been force to go to Iran to bomb schools. Just following orders doesn't work.

You’re just happy to see people you don’t like it understand dead.

Yeah it's make me really happy to see dead nazis.

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[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -9 points 7 months ago

They are cheering for dead troops. Those troops happen to include 17 year old from poor families. They are, unironically and with great enthusiasm, cheering about dead 17 year olds.

I just struggle to see that as good.

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago

Maybe they shouldn't volunteer to murder civilians abroad then? They weren't drafted and the US is in war all the time so it's always a safe bet that if you join the military you'll kill someone or help kill someone

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 15 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

I have zero sympathy for those who sign up to murder other people around the world. Pretty much every war the US has been in has been a war of aggression. American troops willingly sign up to destroy other countries and murder civilians there to uphold empire. They are the scum of the earth.

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[+] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml -8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Whatever argument you need to make to yourself to justify being happy about dead 17 year olds from poor families, I guess.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml [S] 9 points 7 months ago

imagine trying to justify signing up to murder people for the empire because you you come from a poor family, absolute clown shit

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Will anyone please think of the poor nazis, it's not their fault they're killing brown children /s

Look into the many, many, many war crimes that we know of. You're a ghoul for supporting the military.

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[–] 9skyguy0@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago*

Does the religious fervor that arose in the U.S. military when the Iran conflict began mean nothing to you?

Let's not forget Smedley Butler's conclusions on war the U.S. has waged as well. And then, the numerous war crimes that have gone unpunished. U.S. soldiers volunteered fully willingly and have committed them.

And then, evidently the bombing of boats in the Caribbean and the bombing of civilians in Iran means nothing to you either, those were carried out under orders that they did not question.

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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

This you, 25 days ago?

Oh look, a lil propaganda piece. Nice! "No middle ground" seems like a feeder statement for a Nazi. I like seeing Russian allies who are supplying weapons to the killers of Ukranian children go boom.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago*

The best use for an american nazi soldier is manure for the ground of the country they tried to destroy. That way at least they became something useful to the world.