cybernihongo comments on Valve veteran slams Tim Sweeney and Epic Games for laying off 1000 people while making 'as much money as possible… and hey Tim, Gabe's better at that than you'

[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Billionaires bad? Boo, get new better material!

Whatever. Go get your shilling paycheck from billionaire Gabe. Again, I hope it is more than $0, cause nobody deserves to defend a rich asshole for free, everyone deserves a paycheck for doing things well. <3

That said there's one point I noticed that's making me feel very icky.

How many artists and modelers started out from submitting their works for tf2/dota2/cs:go? How many animators started from SFM? How many people became indie devs thanks to the existence of the Steam greenlight? How many people switched over to linux thanks to proton?

Wow. You're saying this as if level designers haven't started their careers by making custom levels for Doom, literally one of the earlier indie games by creator id. Hell, you're giving the discontinued popularity gate called greenlight more credit than it deserves. The truth is Valve wouldn't be here today without the Quake engine that id themselves made - they've driven more innovation than valve's regression and capitalism sold as innovation. Yes, indie games existed before Valve has, shocker I know.

And as for Linux, once again, *wine. Even then, I switched to Linux and stayed because the basic experience has been elevated, and all of that without using any Valve software. If the experience isn't better than it was before, I'd just go back to Windows. Besides, what is the point of Linux if I end up changing my unaccountable corporate master for another unaccountable corporate master, Valve?

I know all of this will fly over your head. This is for everyone else in the room who thinks a little bit of "good things" absolve one of responsibility. I can totally say Microsoft Windows was a positive influence because it made computing easy to access and develop for, but understandably nobody's going to forgive them for the billion bad things they've done in turn.

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[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

How many artists and modelers started out from submitting their works for tf2/dota2/cs:go? How many animators started from SFM? How many people became indie devs thanks to the existence of the Steam greenlight? How many people switched over to linux thanks to proton?

Wow. You're saying this as if level designers haven't started their careers by making custom levels for Doom,

How do my words deny the provided statement in any way? How your words disprove the cited statement?

The truth is Valve wouldn't be here today without the Quake engine that id themselves made...

And Quake engine wouldn't exist without C++, C++ wouldn't exist without C, C wouldn't exist without assembler, and so on and so forth. That's how progress works. Inventing a wheel from scratch every time is hella stupid, and so is your take, captain obvious. Like everyone who licenced the ID Tech engine at the time, Valve built a huge amount of technology on top of it.

Come on, you're no longer even trying.

valve's regression

regression in what, dare i ask?

And as for Linux, once again, *wine. Even then, I switched to Linux and stayed because the basic experience has been elevated, and all of that without using any Valve software.

cool, but that's your personal experience, which is far from being universal.

Besides, what is the point of Linux if I end up changing my unaccountable corporate master for another unaccountable corporate master, Valve?

define "unaccountable corporate master", and explain to me how did you manage to put a game publisher under a term like this.

I can totally say Microsoft Windows was a positive influence because it made computing easy to access and develop for, but understandably nobody's going to forgive them

You could... In an alternate reality where Windows is the only OS ever existed.

So now you're just babbling for the sake of babbling, coming up with the most braindead takes possible, while ignoring practically everything i say because i don't fall under the criteria of your tribe, thus inherently being a corpo billionaire shill. With this behaviour you're only proving my words about your inability to see nuance. I hope you're a kid, because that would at least mean some potential for intellectual development in the future.

Let's stop before you embarrass yourself further.

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[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So now you're just babbling for the sake of babbling, coming up with the most braindead takes possible, while ignoring practically everything i say because i don't fall under the criteria of your tribe, thus inherently being a corpo billionaire shill. With this behaviour you're only proving my words about your inability to see nuance. I hope you're a kid, because that would at least mean some potential for intellectual development in the future.

Cool story bro. btw, buy a mirror instead of using me as yours. I hope Gabe gives you a dollar to buy that mirror.

define "unaccountable corporate master", and explain to me how did you manage to put a game publisher under a term like this.

What a stupid question. See everything I have literally said directly to you. Read my replies and find out the answer. As someone once said, let's stop before you embarrass yourself further.

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