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Someone Forked Systemd to Strip Out Its Age Verification Support (itsfoss.com)
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[–] [S] 11 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I think these laws will be similar to prohibition. They will try for a while, but then realize they can't succeed. Governments can't even handle cyber security, how will they handle this?

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago

    These laws are made by corporation like FB who wish to shift the blame away from itself for their transgressions. Australian and EU laws are banning social media for pre teens and kids. So instead of them developing ways to follow that law they are shifting that onus on to the operating system.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I think you underestimate the technology they have now especially in relation to an event that happened in the 1940's.

    Its like the Stasi but ten thousand times more sophisticated and every bit as motivated.

    Maybe even more motivated, because it generates money for them when they have businesses do it (Palantir) and provides "value" to the markets. Because money and control is absolutely all they care about (in the USA)

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Technologically, yes, they could easily identify non-compliance with how much data is being collected these days

    Logistically though? How are they going to enforce this? Sue every open source project that circumvents this? Block downloads of it with a great firewall? Fine end users? It's just not feasible

    Realistically, they're going to go after the OSes with the biggest market share. Google, Microsoft, and Apple will be forced to comply on new devices, and maybe they'll try to make an example or two to get compliance in advance

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    It will be used to target certain individuals and "nail" their proverbial "balls to the wall" when they want to ruin your life for not complying.

    A us court just convicted people as terrorists and one of the main reasons they cited is that they were using signal.

    "This individual circumvented security measures enacted by the united States to keep people and the children™ safe from online threats both foreign and domestic. The individual conspired with multiple other people some of them from other countries, oops we meant foreign adversaries, to destroy or circumvent this framework we had in place"

    Only thing I can mainly compare it to is how weed isn't legal in a lot of places but they usually don't care, until they suddenly do and your life is fucked.

    Think of people like Ken Klippenstein and your Edward Snowdens (who used tails to leak a lot of their illegal spying shit btw which is us made btw where these laws are starting to gain traction the most [yes I see Brazil too])

    It will be used to target individuals and destroy their lives through the process.

    "Oh also since you're not using the OS level biometric whatever we enacted this is an illegal machine and we are seizing it. Oh, you had whistleblower reports about government corruption? What government corruption Ken we didn't find those files but we did find evidence if you being antifa"

    And if you think I'm just some paranoid schizophrenic and this could never happen then you haven't been paying attention.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    And if everyone used E2E encryption for their private messaging like everyone who understands the topic has been pushing for decades, signal users wouldn't stand out

    The state cannot enforce this, it still relies on compliance in advance

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I agree on everyone should be using E2E Encryption. Its an absolute disgrace that that was even mentioned in the court case at all as a possible link to terrorism.

    I disagree that the state cant enforce this at least in a targeted way but, I really hope you are right in the end though.

    I guess we will see.

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