▲ 407 ▼ The FCC Just Banned the Sale of New Wi-Router Models Made Outside US (www.pcmag.com) submitted 7 months ago by Brkdncr@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments The surprising order means any new Wi-Fi router models sold in the country must be US-made, or receive an exemption from the Pentagon or Homeland Security Department.
[–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago* (6 children) Routers are not modems. Put your router behind the company issued modem and then VPN out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (5 children) Every broadband connection I've had looks at the mac address of whatever is behind the modem, the modem essentially passes it through. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (4 children) No it doesn’t. Go learn about networking, the OSI model, and ARP tables if you believe that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Be less of an asshole, it's free. I've been sniffing packets from cable modems since the 90s. I even remember the mac address of my first network card - 00a0cc52cac7, because mediaone gave out persistent hostnames based on your mac address before they were bought by at&t. I once putty'd into my machine from Katmandu just because I could. Incidentally, when I called at&t support to find out if this would continue, their support rep had no idea what I was talking about, and after I mentioned mac addresses, he suggested I call apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) It's not being an asshole. It's correcting misinformation. There is no tone on the internet so if you read someone as being an asshole it might be a you problem, not a them problem. Sniffing packets doesn't mean you understand networking as evidenced by the fact you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. That right there is you being an asshole. If that's who you are, that's fine, but at least be honest about it. I know I'm an asshole, so you're not hurting my feelings any by turning it back on me. If you would like to not be an asshole, a good start would be to accept that you don't know everything, and just because your experience differs from mine doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's fully possible what I observed between 30 and 15 years ago was unusual, or maybe it was common then but isn't now- and if you had led with that, I might have conceded that you may at least have more current knowledge than I. It's also possible I didn't explain myself clearly enough, and we're just misunderstanding each other- a layer 8 problem, if you will. you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Well, considering I was seeing arp packets from mac addresses of every other machine on my segment pretty much continuously, what conclusion would you come to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (5 children) Every broadband connection I've had looks at the mac address of whatever is behind the modem, the modem essentially passes it through. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (4 children) No it doesn’t. Go learn about networking, the OSI model, and ARP tables if you believe that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Be less of an asshole, it's free. I've been sniffing packets from cable modems since the 90s. I even remember the mac address of my first network card - 00a0cc52cac7, because mediaone gave out persistent hostnames based on your mac address before they were bought by at&t. I once putty'd into my machine from Katmandu just because I could. Incidentally, when I called at&t support to find out if this would continue, their support rep had no idea what I was talking about, and after I mentioned mac addresses, he suggested I call apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) It's not being an asshole. It's correcting misinformation. There is no tone on the internet so if you read someone as being an asshole it might be a you problem, not a them problem. Sniffing packets doesn't mean you understand networking as evidenced by the fact you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. That right there is you being an asshole. If that's who you are, that's fine, but at least be honest about it. I know I'm an asshole, so you're not hurting my feelings any by turning it back on me. If you would like to not be an asshole, a good start would be to accept that you don't know everything, and just because your experience differs from mine doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's fully possible what I observed between 30 and 15 years ago was unusual, or maybe it was common then but isn't now- and if you had led with that, I might have conceded that you may at least have more current knowledge than I. It's also possible I didn't explain myself clearly enough, and we're just misunderstanding each other- a layer 8 problem, if you will. you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Well, considering I was seeing arp packets from mac addresses of every other machine on my segment pretty much continuously, what conclusion would you come to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teft@piefed.social 2 points 7 months ago (4 children) No it doesn’t. Go learn about networking, the OSI model, and ARP tables if you believe that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Be less of an asshole, it's free. I've been sniffing packets from cable modems since the 90s. I even remember the mac address of my first network card - 00a0cc52cac7, because mediaone gave out persistent hostnames based on your mac address before they were bought by at&t. I once putty'd into my machine from Katmandu just because I could. Incidentally, when I called at&t support to find out if this would continue, their support rep had no idea what I was talking about, and after I mentioned mac addresses, he suggested I call apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) It's not being an asshole. It's correcting misinformation. There is no tone on the internet so if you read someone as being an asshole it might be a you problem, not a them problem. Sniffing packets doesn't mean you understand networking as evidenced by the fact you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. That right there is you being an asshole. If that's who you are, that's fine, but at least be honest about it. I know I'm an asshole, so you're not hurting my feelings any by turning it back on me. If you would like to not be an asshole, a good start would be to accept that you don't know everything, and just because your experience differs from mine doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's fully possible what I observed between 30 and 15 years ago was unusual, or maybe it was common then but isn't now- and if you had led with that, I might have conceded that you may at least have more current knowledge than I. It's also possible I didn't explain myself clearly enough, and we're just misunderstanding each other- a layer 8 problem, if you will. you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Well, considering I was seeing arp packets from mac addresses of every other machine on my segment pretty much continuously, what conclusion would you come to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Be less of an asshole, it's free. I've been sniffing packets from cable modems since the 90s. I even remember the mac address of my first network card - 00a0cc52cac7, because mediaone gave out persistent hostnames based on your mac address before they were bought by at&t. I once putty'd into my machine from Katmandu just because I could. Incidentally, when I called at&t support to find out if this would continue, their support rep had no idea what I was talking about, and after I mentioned mac addresses, he suggested I call apple. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) It's not being an asshole. It's correcting misinformation. There is no tone on the internet so if you read someone as being an asshole it might be a you problem, not a them problem. Sniffing packets doesn't mean you understand networking as evidenced by the fact you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. That right there is you being an asshole. If that's who you are, that's fine, but at least be honest about it. I know I'm an asshole, so you're not hurting my feelings any by turning it back on me. If you would like to not be an asshole, a good start would be to accept that you don't know everything, and just because your experience differs from mine doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's fully possible what I observed between 30 and 15 years ago was unusual, or maybe it was common then but isn't now- and if you had led with that, I might have conceded that you may at least have more current knowledge than I. It's also possible I didn't explain myself clearly enough, and we're just misunderstanding each other- a layer 8 problem, if you will. you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Well, considering I was seeing arp packets from mac addresses of every other machine on my segment pretty much continuously, what conclusion would you come to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children) It's not being an asshole. It's correcting misinformation. There is no tone on the internet so if you read someone as being an asshole it might be a you problem, not a them problem. Sniffing packets doesn't mean you understand networking as evidenced by the fact you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. That right there is you being an asshole. If that's who you are, that's fine, but at least be honest about it. I know I'm an asshole, so you're not hurting my feelings any by turning it back on me. If you would like to not be an asshole, a good start would be to accept that you don't know everything, and just because your experience differs from mine doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's fully possible what I observed between 30 and 15 years ago was unusual, or maybe it was common then but isn't now- and if you had led with that, I might have conceded that you may at least have more current knowledge than I. It's also possible I didn't explain myself clearly enough, and we're just misunderstanding each other- a layer 8 problem, if you will. you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Well, considering I was seeing arp packets from mac addresses of every other machine on my segment pretty much continuously, what conclusion would you come to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 child) Just go read up on networking and you'll realize that wouldn't make sense. That right there is you being an asshole. If that's who you are, that's fine, but at least be honest about it. I know I'm an asshole, so you're not hurting my feelings any by turning it back on me. If you would like to not be an asshole, a good start would be to accept that you don't know everything, and just because your experience differs from mine doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's fully possible what I observed between 30 and 15 years ago was unusual, or maybe it was common then but isn't now- and if you had led with that, I might have conceded that you may at least have more current knowledge than I. It's also possible I didn't explain myself clearly enough, and we're just misunderstanding each other- a layer 8 problem, if you will. you think the modem is broadcasting your computer's MAC address. Well, considering I was seeing arp packets from mac addresses of every other machine on my segment pretty much continuously, what conclusion would you come to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teft@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Telling you to go learn isn't being an asshole no matter how much you think it is. Go bother someone else with your ignorance. permalink fedilink source parent