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[+] -26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

The question is, in an age of guns for self defense, what do men have on offer? Will they end up learning how to diet, exercise, cook, clean, and look after the children in order to maintain stronger relationships with hot partners? Will men finally be in charge of the domestic sphere, and women rule elsewhere? Some perhaps having cicisbeo?

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Uhh... Forty something man here.

    Will they end up learning gow to diet

    Well, I eat within my food budget.

    Exercise

    Yeah

    cook

    Yeah

    clean

    Sure

    and look after the children

    Currently on the fourth month of paid paternity leave from my well paying job.

    I don't see this as a concession. I live in an equal relationship with my partner whom I love and want to be just as happy about the relationship as I am. We equally share our chores and pleasures. How else would I want to live?

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I wasn't saying it was a concession. It's a realignment. Traditional models are still changing. A change the world and social norms are still adapting to.

    Some will not handle the change as well as you. Wider society perhaps already isn't (it's part of the male fragility that was exploited to put Trump in power).

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    What men have to offer is that they are people, who each have their own unique, inner world, shaped by their life experiences. They have the capacity to learn and grow beyond their past, and to learn how to facilitate the growth of a partner.

    Some men won't allow themselves this kind of growth, and will condemn both themselves and the people around them to being miserable, but you can't force people to change. But there are many men who relish the chance to be something other than the narrowly defined ideal enforced by the pressures of hegemonic masculinity.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago*

    Men and women (or any genders) are not different in any meaningful way

    They are just people

    The only inherent difference is identity, and the exherent differences (norms, expectations, how they are viewed and treated (including by themselves)) are unnecesary and often harmful

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