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[–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Well it is close, though.

It's really not though? Yeah, both are velar but a fricative doesn't sound like a plosive at all. That's like saying F is close to P, or S is close to T – do you often mix those up?

Edit: and to pre-empt any pedantry from anyone, yes I know that in English P is a bilabial while F is a labiodental, shut up, close enough, both are still labials

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    That's not a valid comparison at all, and it's not pedantic to point that out no matter how preemptively you claim that it is.

    Bilapial ≠ lapiodental! It's not that hard to understand.

    The entire similarity between K and the German Ch is based on them both being velar (and unvoiced). You're crafting a strawman by focusing on the "fricative and plosive" manner while ignoring that the sound is made at the same place.

    S and T are almost a better comparison because they're both technically alveolar, but that ignores the fact that S has a dental component. Try making a T sound and then an S sound without moving your teeth. It won't work.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    In Dutch, a T is sometimes pronounced S

    Politie (police) is pronounced polisie for example

    In the word politiek (politics) it remains a T sound

    Democratie -> democrasie

    Etcetera

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