▲ 406 ▼ Google gives Android users a way to install unverified apps if they worked hard for it(including waiting 24 hours) (android-developers.googleblog.com) submitted 7 months ago by Beep@lemmus.org to c/technology@lemmy.world 125 comments fedilink hide all child comments Lobsters; Hacker News.
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 26 points 7 months ago (31 children) What will you use instead though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 58 points 7 months ago (15 children) At this stage, I'm thinking one of the Motorola phones that will run Graphene out of the box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 months ago (6 children) Isn't that Android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] riptide@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago I believe it’s a fork of android that is not managed by Google permalink fedilink source parent [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) It's an Android fork that has been degoogled permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago (3 children) ........so it's android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something? My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zetta@mander.xyz 12 points 7 months ago (1 child) I use graphene on a pixel. Graphene is Android, albeit a much better version of Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago I don't care whether it's technically android or not, I care that it's not a tool to let google in to my life. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fetus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I'm hoping it's smaller than any of their current offerings. I really want to support a "factory" GrapheneOS phone, but can't stand the size of current generation phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago I want the opposite! I currently use a fold phone because phones are too small :P permalink fedilink source parent [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Even sidegrading to an older mid-high range phone seems like a good idea at this point. I hate android 12 and everything after it with a passion. Moto have been decent in my experience though, hopefully HMD will follow suit with Graphene permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) any links for more info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/32656-motorola-partnership-announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago March 2, 2026 https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ That's some good news indeed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tabular@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children) Linux phone, landline, or tin can and string. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Another option, an ESP32 radio. Surprisingly large mesh network in the greater Seattle area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -6 points 7 months ago Yeah, but you guys don't have any ghosts in your city! So.....Who ya gonna call??? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (11 children) Fairphone with /e/os or Jolla phone with sailfishos (waiting for the reviews of their new preordered flagship phone coming out this fall.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (10 children) Well, that runs into a different problem with the same results. Sure, GOOGLE can't hinder you from installing apps, but the fact that nobody has heard of these OS's before means your selection of available apps is what hinders your ability to install apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) /e/os is Android without Google proprietary stuff. It runs most Android apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) While technically correct, it runs apps, it's misleading because it won't run the majority of apps from the playstore. Google holds people captive with the playstore and the very sneaky google play services. Only the most hardcore tinkerers and privacy oriented would run a pure AOSP phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 2 points 7 months ago* These devices have replaced play services with things like micro g, so yes they will run pretty much any android app even Google ones would work but that would be defeating the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago /e/ OS is just a degoogled Android (similar to Graphene, but not so security oriented). You can install the same apps - though some might not work properly. Sailfish OS is Linux, but if I understand it correctly they have a compatibility layer enabling you to seamlessly install Android apps on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago "Nobody has Heard of these os'" - wtf you talk about? They are gaining popularity here in EU as well as in Turkey. It's getting popular to de-google/de-americanize. People are hating on the monopoly iOS and Android has on the industry. Better to do something than being a sheep about it, and just let thos mofos suck the data out of your life forever? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) You != Everybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps. You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago When i was a kid, blackberries were more common than android. At least in my area it was the "in" thing to be on BBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* e/os and Sailfish are pretty popular alternative OSs (OSes? OSii?) and e/os is an android fork, with Sailfish having an android compatibility layer, so they work with standard Android apps. Source: I use e/os. Why are you in here arguing losing points with no reason or even knowledge about them? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 58 points 7 months ago (15 children) At this stage, I'm thinking one of the Motorola phones that will run Graphene out of the box. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 months ago (6 children) Isn't that Android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] riptide@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago I believe it’s a fork of android that is not managed by Google permalink fedilink source parent [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) It's an Android fork that has been degoogled permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago (3 children) ........so it's android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something? My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zetta@mander.xyz 12 points 7 months ago (1 child) I use graphene on a pixel. Graphene is Android, albeit a much better version of Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago I don't care whether it's technically android or not, I care that it's not a tool to let google in to my life. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fetus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I'm hoping it's smaller than any of their current offerings. I really want to support a "factory" GrapheneOS phone, but can't stand the size of current generation phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago I want the opposite! I currently use a fold phone because phones are too small :P permalink fedilink source parent [–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Even sidegrading to an older mid-high range phone seems like a good idea at this point. I hate android 12 and everything after it with a passion. Moto have been decent in my experience though, hopefully HMD will follow suit with Graphene permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) any links for more info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/32656-motorola-partnership-announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago March 2, 2026 https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ That's some good news indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 months ago (6 children) Isn't that Android? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] riptide@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago I believe it’s a fork of android that is not managed by Google permalink fedilink source parent [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) It's an Android fork that has been degoogled permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago (3 children) ........so it's android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something? My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] riptide@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago I believe it’s a fork of android that is not managed by Google permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 7 months ago (4 children) It's an Android fork that has been degoogled permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago (3 children) ........so it's android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something? My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -8 points 7 months ago (3 children) ........so it's android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something? My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* Is that meant to be a "gotcha" or something? My point is, this is the last time I let google control my phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago Legally? Maybe not. But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product. So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe. Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet. Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 12 points 7 months ago (1 child) I use graphene on a pixel. Graphene is Android, albeit a much better version of Android. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago I don't care whether it's technically android or not, I care that it's not a tool to let google in to my life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago I don't care whether it's technically android or not, I care that it's not a tool to let google in to my life. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I'm hoping it's smaller than any of their current offerings. I really want to support a "factory" GrapheneOS phone, but can't stand the size of current generation phones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago I want the opposite! I currently use a fold phone because phones are too small :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago I want the opposite! I currently use a fold phone because phones are too small :P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago Even sidegrading to an older mid-high range phone seems like a good idea at this point. I hate android 12 and everything after it with a passion. Moto have been decent in my experience though, hopefully HMD will follow suit with Graphene permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) any links for more info? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/32656-motorola-partnership-announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago March 2, 2026 https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ That's some good news indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago (1 child) https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/32656-motorola-partnership-announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago March 2, 2026 https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ That's some good news indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago March 2, 2026 https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/ That's some good news indeed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children) Linux phone, landline, or tin can and string. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Another option, an ESP32 radio. Surprisingly large mesh network in the greater Seattle area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -6 points 7 months ago Yeah, but you guys don't have any ghosts in your city! So.....Who ya gonna call??? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Another option, an ESP32 radio. Surprisingly large mesh network in the greater Seattle area. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -6 points 7 months ago Yeah, but you guys don't have any ghosts in your city! So.....Who ya gonna call??? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -6 points 7 months ago Yeah, but you guys don't have any ghosts in your city! So.....Who ya gonna call??? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (11 children) Fairphone with /e/os or Jolla phone with sailfishos (waiting for the reviews of their new preordered flagship phone coming out this fall.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (10 children) Well, that runs into a different problem with the same results. Sure, GOOGLE can't hinder you from installing apps, but the fact that nobody has heard of these OS's before means your selection of available apps is what hinders your ability to install apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) /e/os is Android without Google proprietary stuff. It runs most Android apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) While technically correct, it runs apps, it's misleading because it won't run the majority of apps from the playstore. Google holds people captive with the playstore and the very sneaky google play services. Only the most hardcore tinkerers and privacy oriented would run a pure AOSP phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 2 points 7 months ago* These devices have replaced play services with things like micro g, so yes they will run pretty much any android app even Google ones would work but that would be defeating the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago /e/ OS is just a degoogled Android (similar to Graphene, but not so security oriented). You can install the same apps - though some might not work properly. Sailfish OS is Linux, but if I understand it correctly they have a compatibility layer enabling you to seamlessly install Android apps on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago "Nobody has Heard of these os'" - wtf you talk about? They are gaining popularity here in EU as well as in Turkey. It's getting popular to de-google/de-americanize. People are hating on the monopoly iOS and Android has on the industry. Better to do something than being a sheep about it, and just let thos mofos suck the data out of your life forever? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) You != Everybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps. You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago When i was a kid, blackberries were more common than android. At least in my area it was the "in" thing to be on BBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* e/os and Sailfish are pretty popular alternative OSs (OSes? OSii?) and e/os is an android fork, with Sailfish having an android compatibility layer, so they work with standard Android apps. Source: I use e/os. Why are you in here arguing losing points with no reason or even knowledge about them? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago (10 children) Well, that runs into a different problem with the same results. Sure, GOOGLE can't hinder you from installing apps, but the fact that nobody has heard of these OS's before means your selection of available apps is what hinders your ability to install apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) /e/os is Android without Google proprietary stuff. It runs most Android apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) While technically correct, it runs apps, it's misleading because it won't run the majority of apps from the playstore. Google holds people captive with the playstore and the very sneaky google play services. Only the most hardcore tinkerers and privacy oriented would run a pure AOSP phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 2 points 7 months ago* These devices have replaced play services with things like micro g, so yes they will run pretty much any android app even Google ones would work but that would be defeating the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago /e/ OS is just a degoogled Android (similar to Graphene, but not so security oriented). You can install the same apps - though some might not work properly. Sailfish OS is Linux, but if I understand it correctly they have a compatibility layer enabling you to seamlessly install Android apps on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago "Nobody has Heard of these os'" - wtf you talk about? They are gaining popularity here in EU as well as in Turkey. It's getting popular to de-google/de-americanize. People are hating on the monopoly iOS and Android has on the industry. Better to do something than being a sheep about it, and just let thos mofos suck the data out of your life forever? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) You != Everybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps. You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago When i was a kid, blackberries were more common than android. At least in my area it was the "in" thing to be on BBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* e/os and Sailfish are pretty popular alternative OSs (OSes? OSii?) and e/os is an android fork, with Sailfish having an android compatibility layer, so they work with standard Android apps. Source: I use e/os. Why are you in here arguing losing points with no reason or even knowledge about them? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (3 children) /e/os is Android without Google proprietary stuff. It runs most Android apps. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) While technically correct, it runs apps, it's misleading because it won't run the majority of apps from the playstore. Google holds people captive with the playstore and the very sneaky google play services. Only the most hardcore tinkerers and privacy oriented would run a pure AOSP phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 2 points 7 months ago* These devices have replaced play services with things like micro g, so yes they will run pretty much any android app even Google ones would work but that would be defeating the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) While technically correct, it runs apps, it's misleading because it won't run the majority of apps from the playstore. Google holds people captive with the playstore and the very sneaky google play services. Only the most hardcore tinkerers and privacy oriented would run a pure AOSP phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 2 points 7 months ago* These devices have replaced play services with things like micro g, so yes they will run pretty much any android app even Google ones would work but that would be defeating the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Teknikal@anarchist.nexus 2 points 7 months ago* These devices have replaced play services with things like micro g, so yes they will run pretty much any android app even Google ones would work but that would be defeating the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago /e/ OS is just a degoogled Android (similar to Graphene, but not so security oriented). You can install the same apps - though some might not work properly. Sailfish OS is Linux, but if I understand it correctly they have a compatibility layer enabling you to seamlessly install Android apps on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago "Nobody has Heard of these os'" - wtf you talk about? They are gaining popularity here in EU as well as in Turkey. It's getting popular to de-google/de-americanize. People are hating on the monopoly iOS and Android has on the industry. Better to do something than being a sheep about it, and just let thos mofos suck the data out of your life forever? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) You != Everybody. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps. You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago When i was a kid, blackberries were more common than android. At least in my area it was the "in" thing to be on BBM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps. You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago When i was a kid, blackberries were more common than android. At least in my area it was the "in" thing to be on BBM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago When i was a kid, blackberries were more common than android. At least in my area it was the "in" thing to be on BBM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* e/os and Sailfish are pretty popular alternative OSs (OSes? OSii?) and e/os is an android fork, with Sailfish having an android compatibility layer, so they work with standard Android apps. Source: I use e/os. Why are you in here arguing losing points with no reason or even knowledge about them? permalink fedilink source parent