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[–] 26 points 7 months ago (31 children)

What will you use instead though?

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  • [–] 58 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    At this stage, I'm thinking one of the Motorola phones that will run Graphene out of the box.

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    It's an Android fork that has been degoogled

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  • [+] -8 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I imagine since it's not an official product of Google's, it can't legally be called "Android." As such it's something that is not Android, but is highly compatible with it since both are rooted in the AOSP.

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  • [+] -11 points 7 months ago

    Legally? Maybe not.

    But Col Sanders left KFC after selling a business he created with his own secret reciepe. Then after he sold it, he watched the new owners use his image to sell an inferior chicken product.

    So he started up another new chicken resteraunt using the original reciepe. Legally he couldn't call it KFC, but that doesn't change the fact that it was the original KFC reciepe.

    Hows that phrase go? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.

    Call things whatever word you want, it's still the same thing in the end.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Even sidegrading to an older mid-high range phone seems like a good idea at this point. I hate android 12 and everything after it with a passion. Moto have been decent in my experience though, hopefully HMD will follow suit with Graphene

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Linux phone, landline, or tin can and string.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Fairphone with /e/os or Jolla phone with sailfishos (waiting for the reviews of their new preordered flagship phone coming out this fall.)

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  • [–] -4 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Well, that runs into a different problem with the same results.

    Sure, GOOGLE can't hinder you from installing apps, but the fact that nobody has heard of these OS's before means your selection of available apps is what hinders your ability to install apps.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    /e/os is Android without Google proprietary stuff. It runs most Android apps.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    While technically correct, it runs apps, it's misleading because it won't run the majority of apps from the playstore.

    Google holds people captive with the playstore and the very sneaky google play services.

    Only the most hardcore tinkerers and privacy oriented would run a pure AOSP phone.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I've tried it, and only ran into a couple apps that wouldn't work with MicroG. I won't pretend it's painless, but it's workable for someone with sufficient motivation.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    /e/ OS is just a degoogled Android (similar to Graphene, but not so security oriented). You can install the same apps - though some might not work properly.

    Sailfish OS is Linux, but if I understand it correctly they have a compatibility layer enabling you to seamlessly install Android apps on it.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago

    "Nobody has Heard of these os'" - wtf you talk about? They are gaining popularity here in EU as well as in Turkey. It's getting popular to de-google/de-americanize. People are hating on the monopoly iOS and Android has on the industry. Better to do something than being a sheep about it, and just let thos mofos suck the data out of your life forever?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That exact issue killed Blackberry, the largest smartphone maker at the time. Even after they built a compatibility layer to run Android apps.

    You think anywhere near enough people are going to go out of their way to try something that doesn't have marketshare already to maintain an entire alternative hardware and software ecosystem? Where can I get wherever awesome shit you're smoking?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    e/os and Sailfish are pretty popular alternative OSs (OSes? OSii?) and e/os is an android fork, with Sailfish having an android compatibility layer, so they work with standard Android apps.

    Source: I use e/os.

    Why are you in here arguing losing points with no reason or even knowledge about them?

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