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[–] 54 points 7 months ago (25 children)

Black people don't own the patent on suffering, sorry. Plenty of other races and people's have had a bad time, often at the hands of overlords.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I don't think anyone is arguing that on a global scale though colonial/Western powers did decimate Africa and continue to actively prevent its advancement via neocolonialism there.

    But if we're talking about American history then we need to be transparent about the fact that this was an apartheid state until about half a century ago and the consequences of that reverberate to the present day.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    You probably mean well, but this rings of "all lives matter." There's nothing wrong with pointing out injustice and oppression, in isolation. The issue lies in using it as a rebuttal to the suffering of others. "The Irish were enslaved" is fine, but "white people were slaves, too," is minimizing the vast industry of oppression that was the slave trade.

    No one is claiming a patent on suffering, but you are minimizing theirs. You can acknowledge suffering without trying to draw comparisons, and especially without the strawman argument. The phrase "black people don't own the patent on suffering, sorry" rings of resentment and snark, and isn't at all representative of most black people's view of human suffering. Oppressed people support each other and prop each other up. We aren't measuring each other's suffering or keeping score. Some of my greatest allies are people that don't share my own personal struggle, but relate with their own, and I likewise support them (I am a queer white woman).

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Bro, their point was that the horrendous treatment of the Irish is often brushed off and minimalized because they're white.

    An Irish holiday is exactly the right time to talk about the abuses the Irish faced, and countering it with "Well black people had it worse," is what's problematic.

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  • [+] -13 points 7 months ago (18 children)

    Yeah, and which races are STILL suffering the consequences of that very recent bad time in USA?

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (17 children)

    The native americans or whatever the specific tribe wishes to be called. Lol

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  • [+] -10 points 7 months ago* (16 children)

    Lol

    Haha, yeah, human suffering and injustice are hilarious. Anyway, you're so smart, you figured out half of the answer, look at you! Wow!

    Yeah, native and black americans. So what's the point of the original comment? Should the USA have a white history month, learning about white prisoners of war being slaves 2000 years ago?

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    You honestly have an issue with discussing the treatment of the Irish around the time of an Irish holiday?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (12 children)

    Only when it's used as an excuse to shut down conversation of the historical and current impacts of the enslavement of other peoples.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    Right, but in this scenario the African slave trade is being used to shut down the conversation of the treatment of the Irish.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (10 children)

    I didn't see anyone talking about the treatment of the Irish, but by all means go off.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    What exactly do you think this post is about?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (8 children)

    A joke around the stereotype of white people playing at oppression like it's something to be proud of rather than an ugly wound that has never healed.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    It's making fun of white people for talking about the treatment of the Irish during the St. Patrick's Day holiday.

    If it was about white people saying it during black history month, this would be a different conversation.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    Ah I didn't read it like that at all. Going by the funny picture I took it as an excuse for a certain type of person who relishes taking their turn at the "oppression olympics." I don't really think we need to guess who this hypothetical asshole is educating about Irish oppression (which is real and who documented).

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah cuz you are ignorant and only your struggles are worthy and valid.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    ??

    None of these are my struggles, except insofar as they happen to people. I might be ignorant but I'm not uncaring.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Oppressed by your disregard for reality because it is not compatible with your generic corporate capitalism education.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Uh huh? You haven't even asked me my perspective, but by all means tell me what I believe.

    I have had a "generic corporate capitalism education" like most people online. Did you not? How did you get woke to the gaps in your education?

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