I'd trade my car repair skill for house repair, and my musical ability for math ability. Both of those are far more useful in life. Maybe also trade my computer ability for welding or woodworking.

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[–] 6 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Respectfully disagree with you.

I've been taking music lessons for years, to find that I don't have the ear nor the rhythm for it.

Ten years of dance classes, I love the feeling of floating over the floor with an English Waltz. But ask me to stop counting in my head, or improvise rather than trained patterns, and I fall apart, just rocking in place.

Painting too. Aquarels, not acrylic. I don't have the imagination nor, again, the fine motor skills.

The Arts are not for me.

I am a man of electronics, mechanics, computing, soldering, Lego, woodworking, sailing, geometry, 3d modeling. And I can teach and plan and organise.

It's all practical, tangible stuff. That is who I am.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I feel you. When trying to paint I want to make an exact copy of reality because I can't imagine what is the essential thing to make something recognizable as it. I can't imagine it well enough in my head.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (10 children)

    Sounds like you've just not found the right way to learn that works for you, tbh

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Eh you can’t ignore the effect talent has on skill development. Their brain can literally be wired in a way that something like rhythm can be difficult to master whereas someone else can pick it up easily. Some of these things you’re just born with and can never change.

    The same applies to high level math and art

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    It’s more of a multiplier. Regardless of practice someone without talent will never catch a talented and dedicated person.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    Huh, I guess that explains all those bands of musicians where none of them had any talent and then went on to have zero success, such as AC/DC, Slayer and Metallica

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Mainstream musical success is not a metric of musical skill. However if you look at any violin soloist, they have to be talented.

    Also I’d also argue many of those band members do have talent.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, Metallica are talentless hacks, they're famous for it

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    I'm in the same boat as him. I have zero talent or understanding if music and art

    Math comes very easily and naturally to me. Even advanced calculus felt east to learn

    I couldn't sing a single song from memory. Not in a, "I'm bad at singing" way. Literally I don't remember a single song. I have memorized songs before, but it's quick to forget them, because it's just that to me - memorization

    With practice and effort I can memorize songs and generally replicate patterns to make music, but that's it. It isn't really learning music

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    It literally is.

    That's all learning music is, remembering more and more patterns, and then fucking around to see if you can combine them in interesting ways.

    You all sound like you've just started, hit a chest-high wall and then went "this must be all there is! Woe is me!" instead of just climbing over the wall

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