▲ 54 ▼ Thousands of authors publish ‘empty’ book in protest over AI using their work (www.theguardian.com) submitted 8 months ago by zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml to c/books@lemmy.ml 22 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 8 months ago (3 children) The studies would disagree with you: https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.02671 AI slop is theft and slop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works -6 points 8 months ago (2 children) Yes, if a human saw a book enough times they would also be able to quote it from memory. They chose a very popular book which is almost certainly hugely overrepresented in training, try eg Kim Stanley Robinson's Green Mars and see if it can reproduce it in full. It's still not proper copying - and even if it was, copying is not theft, since the original person still has their original copy. Theft means you have it and the original owner doesn't. If it's ethical for individuals to copy media, it's also ethical for LLMs to do it (regardless of if they actually do) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) Way to refute actual research with "trust me bro". I love how slop defenders like yourself always rely on vibes arguments instead of data or research. Kind of indicative don't you think? I'd post more research about how by relying on slop machines you don't think and lose those skills. But I've been down this rabbit hole enough so I'll go read a book instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago I was engaging with what the research showed and showing how it doesn't show what you claim it does. That's all... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works -6 points 8 months ago (2 children) Yes, if a human saw a book enough times they would also be able to quote it from memory. They chose a very popular book which is almost certainly hugely overrepresented in training, try eg Kim Stanley Robinson's Green Mars and see if it can reproduce it in full. It's still not proper copying - and even if it was, copying is not theft, since the original person still has their original copy. Theft means you have it and the original owner doesn't. If it's ethical for individuals to copy media, it's also ethical for LLMs to do it (regardless of if they actually do) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) Way to refute actual research with "trust me bro". I love how slop defenders like yourself always rely on vibes arguments instead of data or research. Kind of indicative don't you think? I'd post more research about how by relying on slop machines you don't think and lose those skills. But I've been down this rabbit hole enough so I'll go read a book instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago I was engaging with what the research showed and showing how it doesn't show what you claim it does. That's all... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 1 point 8 months ago* (1 child) Way to refute actual research with "trust me bro". I love how slop defenders like yourself always rely on vibes arguments instead of data or research. Kind of indicative don't you think? I'd post more research about how by relying on slop machines you don't think and lose those skills. But I've been down this rabbit hole enough so I'll go read a book instead permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago I was engaging with what the research showed and showing how it doesn't show what you claim it does. That's all... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago I was engaging with what the research showed and showing how it doesn't show what you claim it does. That's all... permalink fedilink source parent