I find plate/serving vessel size/depth is a huge little-discussed elephant in the room basically every time these kinds of discussions happen, I agree! Like in basically any discussion of metabolism or vanilla dietary practices or etc

Also, very refreshing to get an actual representative person chiming in non-judgmentally, theres already been whiffs of people claiming degrees of racism (playing race card to out it bluntly) when I'm clearly more interested in exploring a hypothesis and open to reasonable discussion and of course any contradictions they are aware of :)

I swear, disaffected folks are addicted to spinning up relevance for themself out of whole cloth at a systemic scale, its a real epi- and sys-stemic problem