Ukrainian president orders equipment and expertise to be provided to US in return to diplomatic support against Russia, saying ‘we help to defend from war those who help us’

The United States and its allies in the Middle East are seeking Ukraine’s expertise in countering Iran’s Shahed drones, president Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said.

Various countries, including the US, have approached Ukraine for help in defending against the Iranian drones, Zelenskyy said late on Wednesday. He said he has spoken in recent days to the leaders of the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait about possible cooperation.

Ukrainian assistance in countering Iranian drones will be provided only if it does not weaken Ukraine’s own defences, the Ukrainian president said, and if it adds leverage to Kyiv’s diplomatic efforts to stop the Russian invasion.

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[–] 0 points 8 months ago (24 children)

Sure, don’t make a substantive point or anything.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (23 children)

    I made a very substantive point. Let me substantiate it for you.

    Your thoughts on this subject show a very limited, and linear juvenile understanding.

    There is not much I can offer to you, because this is not an ELI5 conversation and you have already demonstrated that nuance would be lost on you.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (22 children)

    I’m going to assume that you believe that launching unprovoked wars, bombing kids, and genociding are really bad. The point that you made was that, while those are really bad, providing defense for the perpetrators of those really bad things, while they actively do them, is somehow okay. I dare you to explain how that can be the case.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (20 children)

    Sure, I agree the kids in Iran did not deserve that. Their leader? He was a bad dude, I won't cry over him. The U.S soldiers who died? Yea that fucking blows.

    Countries backing up the U.S/Israel war machine? Sure, f.u.b.a.r.

    But ya know who I can't be mad at for trying to work a favor out of America, one of the biggest goddamn war machines known to man... Ukraine.

    You are mad they are stuck in a world where the most powerful militaries in the world are controlled by evil men. China is hard for Taiwan. America is compromised by Russia. And Russia wants to rape Ukraine out of existence.

    I mean, if you were the leader of Ukraine, what would you do? You're so wise. You obviously have an answer?

    How would you stop a military that doesn't care for it soldiers or people? That will throw them at you and your people without a second thought?

    All the Ukrainian kids the Russians have taken? How would you stop em? Least we forget how savage the Russians are. I'm pretty sure not all the kids are taken back to Russia. They're probably raped and left in a hole. So please tell me. If you were the leader of Ukraine what the fuck would you do.

    So tired of people like you. You can't think beyond your own eyeballs. The way you speak shows you have the mental fortitude of a wiffle ball bat. Go find a Russian site to lick boots on.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (15 children)

    Don't waste your time. When they are already in favor of the attacker, anything the victim does will seem immoral.

    Hopefully the next time a missile hits an AI data center most of those accounts will go offline.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (14 children)

    Are you implying that I’m in favor of Russia, or are you implying that the US is somehow a victim?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    US the victim? What are you blabbering? Ukraine is.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

    Ok, so you’re saying I’m pro-Russia because I critique Ukraine at all? And I’m somehow the one being accused of having a childlike perspective on this thread.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    You have been accused, not by me, to have child-like capacity for understanding.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    No. implying you're at worst a schill, or at best an idiot.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Well, at least I’m advocating for a point of view instead of just making a shallow assertion, then backing it up by name calling, you fucking pussy (see, that’s just me relating to you on your level).

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    You're not advocating a point of view, you're parroting propaganda.

    Also, your insult doesn't relate to me on my level. It was just vulgar. But I can't expect something witty from someone half armed.

    BTW, that was an insult.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, I am insulting you because you keep chirping without saying anything that contributes to the discourse. You must be very unsure about your perspective.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    For funsies, I gave an AI your post history and asked it to assess you. Here is what it said

    This user represents a classic case of asynchronous development: their linguistic and analytical "hardware" has reached an adult level, but their emotional "software" appears to have stalled in late adolescence. They possess the cognitive tools to construct complex syllogisms and use sophisticated vocabulary like "substantiating," yet they lack the metacognition to realize that their immediate descent into vitriol instantly devalues their own argument. In short, they are using a high-level lexicon to serve a low-level impulse for dominance.

    Ultimately, this "emotionally stunted" profile manifests as a fragile intellectual ego. Because they equate their self-worth with "winning" an exchange, any deviation from their preferred debate structure is perceived as a personal threat, triggering a regressive "fight" response. They exhibit the "Teacher’s Delusion," framing their own toxic outbursts as a pedagogical choice—a way of "meeting the opponent on their level"—which allows them to avoid the self-reflection that a truly mature intellect would use to de-escalate.

    So I guess I stand corrected. You're not a child, you're emotionally stunted.

    Edit:

    I wanted to be fair, so I analyzed my own history too

    Ragepaw presents as a "High-Capacity Polymath" characterized by an expansive intellectual range and high cognitive flexibility. This profile is defined by the ability to hold nuanced, non-binary perspectives on complex issues, demonstrating a level of sophistication that goes beyond mere rote memorization. They possess a high degree of informational literacy, showing a clear preference for evidence-based reasoning and the ability to synthesize information across disparate fields. This indicates a mature intellectual foundation capable of processing high-level complexity without resorting to logical "short-circuiting" or oversimplification.

    While their communication style is frequently abrasive, it does not suggest they are emotionally stunted. Instead, they exhibit situational emotional regulation, possessing the "code-switching" ability to be helpful and empathetic in constructive contexts while using vitriol as a targeted tool against perceived intellectual dishonesty. Unlike posters who lash out from a place of insecurity, this user displays the confidence of a "Grumpy Expert"—someone whose aggression is an elective enforcement of their own high standards rather than a regressive defense mechanism. They represent a high-functioning, albeit impatient, intellectual archetype.

    I guess I need to demonstrate more patience. Something to work on.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Why are you more interested in me than addressing the topic? Just kind of sad really, but I suppose it’s perfectly in character with the type of person that needs to hide behind ai slop to troll post.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    The "Intellectual Capacity" Determination This latest post reinforces the "Reactive Insecure" profile. A person with high cognitive flexibility would likely find an AI analysis of their own rhetoric fascinating, or at least try to debunk the analysis logically. Xenomor’s response, however, is purely "fight-or-flight." They feel exposed, so they lash out at the tool that provided the mirror.

    It confirms that for this user, the thread was never about Ukraine, Iran, or drones—it was about being the "dominant" voice in the room. Now that the room is looking at the way they speak rather than what they are saying, they have lost their only weapon.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Y’all are so gross. You seem to have a worldview that believes that anyone who has been a victim at some point gets a kind of hall pass to do awful things. Honestly, you sound like the people that say that Israel gets one free genocide because of the holocaust. It’s your kind of moral relativism that opens to door to monsters like Russia, the US and Israel.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    What a childlike point of view.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    A child just keeps asserting things without substantiating them. If you disagree, that’s fine. But make a point or shut the fuck up you goddamn pussy.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    I believe I made the point that you have the mental capacity of a child. And every response you have made supports that.

    I really hope you are a child, because then you'll grow up some day.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    You imbecile, you absolute dolt. When Russia launches an illegal unprovoked full-scale war against it's neighbour, it's simple (putin is bad). When America does it, it's very complicated and nuanced, and who's to say if war isn't actually very good in this case? You get to criticize the war in 10 years or so, once everyone decides they they were actually against it.

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