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[+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 28 points 8 months ago (16 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [β] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago (12 children) you got any tutorials or suggested hardware to join a mesh network? id be interested... it's only a matter of time before the public internet is just unusable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 10 points 8 months ago (4 children) Not internet level replacement. But Meshcore running on ESP32 is pretty neat. I recently set up my RasPi 4b with a LoRa Hat and set it up using pymc_repeater to set it up a repeater at my apt. https://meshcore.co.uk/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (3 children) *meshtastic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] 5wim@infosec.pub 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) MeshCore exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago In theory sure :-p Just being a dick about it. My local club has many long long discussions about which we should be putting nodes up for. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 1 point 8 months ago No thank you. I mean Meshcore. permalink fedilink source parent [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago (6 children) To join you need to either have an established mesh network already (assuming you don't want to start a ISP) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (5 children) right i found meshtastic.org through lemmy ... and its a cool concept ... purchase some hardware and join the network... download app... and you can do text communication... i was just wondering if there were more robust mesh networks with more capabilities than a text message. id rather just get prepared for when the rug is pulled out from underneath us and we have to get an anal cavity search just to check the weather. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago There are a few metros around the world that have higher speed community networks (NYC Mesh, Freifunk, etc). If you get a HAM license, you could try participating in stuff like AREDN which uses modified WiFi access points. Depending on where you are, you'd likely have to start a group or club to start building out infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) What exactly are you looking for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ignirtoq@feddit.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not OP, but I personally would like to see a mesh-based low-bandwidth HTTP alternative, like Gemini. A tool set for sharing things more persistent than text messaging (or ideally building other digital services with) while being compatible with the underlying lower performance hardware and wireless medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent [β] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Reticulum seems cool since it can work over all kinds of different networking technologies, even regular ol' WiFi and whatnot. Higher bandwidth channels can talk to lower bandwidth channels, and vice versa. It has its own problems with scale and actual users out in the wild, as well as I believe some issues getting proper code contributions and consistent maintenance. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 8 months ago (2 children) the government canβt control them They can use signal jammers to take them out pretty easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 8 points 8 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No. They identify your location, confiscate all your stuff, give you a stiff fine and then send you to jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago You might want to read up what happened to Jacques Baud and a handful of people. And welcome to the Fourth Reich, citizen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[β] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago (12 children) you got any tutorials or suggested hardware to join a mesh network? id be interested... it's only a matter of time before the public internet is just unusable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 10 points 8 months ago (4 children) Not internet level replacement. But Meshcore running on ESP32 is pretty neat. I recently set up my RasPi 4b with a LoRa Hat and set it up using pymc_repeater to set it up a repeater at my apt. https://meshcore.co.uk/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (3 children) *meshtastic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] 5wim@infosec.pub 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) MeshCore exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago In theory sure :-p Just being a dick about it. My local club has many long long discussions about which we should be putting nodes up for. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 1 point 8 months ago No thank you. I mean Meshcore. permalink fedilink source parent [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago (6 children) To join you need to either have an established mesh network already (assuming you don't want to start a ISP) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (5 children) right i found meshtastic.org through lemmy ... and its a cool concept ... purchase some hardware and join the network... download app... and you can do text communication... i was just wondering if there were more robust mesh networks with more capabilities than a text message. id rather just get prepared for when the rug is pulled out from underneath us and we have to get an anal cavity search just to check the weather. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago There are a few metros around the world that have higher speed community networks (NYC Mesh, Freifunk, etc). If you get a HAM license, you could try participating in stuff like AREDN which uses modified WiFi access points. Depending on where you are, you'd likely have to start a group or club to start building out infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) What exactly are you looking for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ignirtoq@feddit.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not OP, but I personally would like to see a mesh-based low-bandwidth HTTP alternative, like Gemini. A tool set for sharing things more persistent than text messaging (or ideally building other digital services with) while being compatible with the underlying lower performance hardware and wireless medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent [β] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Reticulum seems cool since it can work over all kinds of different networking technologies, even regular ol' WiFi and whatnot. Higher bandwidth channels can talk to lower bandwidth channels, and vice versa. It has its own problems with scale and actual users out in the wild, as well as I believe some issues getting proper code contributions and consistent maintenance. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 10 points 8 months ago (4 children) Not internet level replacement. But Meshcore running on ESP32 is pretty neat. I recently set up my RasPi 4b with a LoRa Hat and set it up using pymc_repeater to set it up a repeater at my apt. https://meshcore.co.uk/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (3 children) *meshtastic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] 5wim@infosec.pub 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) MeshCore exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago In theory sure :-p Just being a dick about it. My local club has many long long discussions about which we should be putting nodes up for. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 1 point 8 months ago No thank you. I mean Meshcore. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (3 children) *meshtastic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] 5wim@infosec.pub 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) MeshCore exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago In theory sure :-p Just being a dick about it. My local club has many long long discussions about which we should be putting nodes up for. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 1 point 8 months ago No thank you. I mean Meshcore. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] 5wim@infosec.pub 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) MeshCore exists permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago In theory sure :-p Just being a dick about it. My local club has many long long discussions about which we should be putting nodes up for. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago In theory sure :-p Just being a dick about it. My local club has many long long discussions about which we should be putting nodes up for. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 1 point 8 months ago No thank you. I mean Meshcore. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago (6 children) To join you need to either have an established mesh network already (assuming you don't want to start a ISP) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (5 children) right i found meshtastic.org through lemmy ... and its a cool concept ... purchase some hardware and join the network... download app... and you can do text communication... i was just wondering if there were more robust mesh networks with more capabilities than a text message. id rather just get prepared for when the rug is pulled out from underneath us and we have to get an anal cavity search just to check the weather. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago There are a few metros around the world that have higher speed community networks (NYC Mesh, Freifunk, etc). If you get a HAM license, you could try participating in stuff like AREDN which uses modified WiFi access points. Depending on where you are, you'd likely have to start a group or club to start building out infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) What exactly are you looking for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ignirtoq@feddit.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not OP, but I personally would like to see a mesh-based low-bandwidth HTTP alternative, like Gemini. A tool set for sharing things more persistent than text messaging (or ideally building other digital services with) while being compatible with the underlying lower performance hardware and wireless medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent [β] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Reticulum seems cool since it can work over all kinds of different networking technologies, even regular ol' WiFi and whatnot. Higher bandwidth channels can talk to lower bandwidth channels, and vice versa. It has its own problems with scale and actual users out in the wild, as well as I believe some issues getting proper code contributions and consistent maintenance. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago (5 children) right i found meshtastic.org through lemmy ... and its a cool concept ... purchase some hardware and join the network... download app... and you can do text communication... i was just wondering if there were more robust mesh networks with more capabilities than a text message. id rather just get prepared for when the rug is pulled out from underneath us and we have to get an anal cavity search just to check the weather. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [β] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago There are a few metros around the world that have higher speed community networks (NYC Mesh, Freifunk, etc). If you get a HAM license, you could try participating in stuff like AREDN which uses modified WiFi access points. Depending on where you are, you'd likely have to start a group or club to start building out infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) What exactly are you looking for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ignirtoq@feddit.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not OP, but I personally would like to see a mesh-based low-bandwidth HTTP alternative, like Gemini. A tool set for sharing things more persistent than text messaging (or ideally building other digital services with) while being compatible with the underlying lower performance hardware and wireless medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent [β] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Reticulum seems cool since it can work over all kinds of different networking technologies, even regular ol' WiFi and whatnot. Higher bandwidth channels can talk to lower bandwidth channels, and vice versa. It has its own problems with scale and actual users out in the wild, as well as I believe some issues getting proper code contributions and consistent maintenance. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] sobchak@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago There are a few metros around the world that have higher speed community networks (NYC Mesh, Freifunk, etc). If you get a HAM license, you could try participating in stuff like AREDN which uses modified WiFi access points. Depending on where you are, you'd likely have to start a group or club to start building out infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago (2 children) What exactly are you looking for? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ignirtoq@feddit.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not OP, but I personally would like to see a mesh-based low-bandwidth HTTP alternative, like Gemini. A tool set for sharing things more persistent than text messaging (or ideally building other digital services with) while being compatible with the underlying lower performance hardware and wireless medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ignirtoq@feddit.online 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) Not OP, but I personally would like to see a mesh-based low-bandwidth HTTP alternative, like Gemini. A tool set for sharing things more persistent than text messaging (or ideally building other digital services with) while being compatible with the underlying lower performance hardware and wireless medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent
[β] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago* Http doesn't have that much overhead (especially when you want to send things in the MB range) What kinds of applications are you talking about? Are you thinking TCP/IP connectivity or something slower? You can build a network mesh out of wireless point to point and 802.11s mesh networks. It is all TCP/IP networking so you can run any application you want over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_(protocol) https://www.open-mesh.org/projects/batman-adv/wiki/Wiki Edit: I forgot about HaLow. It is lower bandwidth but it has a much longer range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ah permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 1 point 8 months ago Reticulum seems cool since it can work over all kinds of different networking technologies, even regular ol' WiFi and whatnot. Higher bandwidth channels can talk to lower bandwidth channels, and vice versa. It has its own problems with scale and actual users out in the wild, as well as I believe some issues getting proper code contributions and consistent maintenance. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 points 8 months ago (2 children) the government canβt control them They can use signal jammers to take them out pretty easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 8 points 8 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No. They identify your location, confiscate all your stuff, give you a stiff fine and then send you to jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago You might want to read up what happened to Jacques Baud and a handful of people. And welcome to the Fourth Reich, citizen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 8 points 8 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No. They identify your location, confiscate all your stuff, give you a stiff fine and then send you to jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago You might want to read up what happened to Jacques Baud and a handful of people. And welcome to the Fourth Reich, citizen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (1 child) No. They identify your location, confiscate all your stuff, give you a stiff fine and then send you to jail. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago You might want to read up what happened to Jacques Baud and a handful of people. And welcome to the Fourth Reich, citizen. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 3 points 8 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago You might want to read up what happened to Jacques Baud and a handful of people. And welcome to the Fourth Reich, citizen. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 point 8 months ago You might want to read up what happened to Jacques Baud and a handful of people. And welcome to the Fourth Reich, citizen. permalink fedilink source parent