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Imperial soldiers be like (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 15 points 8 months ago (14 children)

We wouldn't see images like the Iranian girl's rucksack smeared with blood.

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    because we wouldn't have the internet. the US military contributed significantly to the development of today's internet.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Would we have the Autobahn if Hitler hadn't built it?

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  • [–] -5 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

    probably with some time delay, the germans love a good race (/s)

    apart from that, the military did some significant research into a lot of technology, including airplanes (and rockets), internet, nuclear energy.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    You failed to get the point I was making. Just because the military is a driving factor to technological progress, doesn't mean it's a good thing all of a sudden. And all that progress could also have been made by science. Wernher von Braun didn't care who funded his research into rockets.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Good point. But let me ask you this:

    Without a military or nuclear weapons, what is preventing other countries from taking advantage at the first chance they get?

    Criticize the U.S. all you want. But the country is full of valuable resources that other countries want. Take away the U.S.'s ability to defend themselves and the risk of foreign nations taking advantage will spike dramatically. Nukes are basically the ultimate "don't even think about it" sign.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    sorry full of valuable resources? what, corn? dataservers? pedophiles?

    the U.S. is not some piggy bank waiting to be cracked. Realistically, the current US military exists to defend America from all the nations it's pissed off by invading them in the past. It's a self-fullfilling system.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago

    I'm talking about big oil and gas production, food and farmland, massive agricultural output and the ability to export it at scale, freshwater and arable land (underappreciated, but increasingly strategic as climate stress rises elsewhere), minerals (some, not all).

    And don't forget non natural resources the U.S. has like:

    Capital markets: Deep, liquid markets that can fund governments and companies. Money is a resource; the U.S. is one of the main wells.

    technology and IP: Advanced R&D, software, aerospace, biotech, semiconductors design, and the companies that sit on them.

    Security alliances and military reach: Not a resource in nature, but it functions like one. i It shapes trade routes, deters threats, and sets terms.

    The world's reserve currency system: Being able to transact, borrow, and settle trade in USD is a kind of meta-resource. Others want access to it more than they want a mine.

    That bundle is why the U.S. stays permanently relevant, for better and worse.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    the U.S.'s ability to defend themselves

    If you have nukes and are the only sick fucks ever top use it why do you need to 'defend' yourself everywhere in the world unprovoked.
    get fucked with your BS. You're parroting regime propaganda.
    Even they at least became less hypocritical in naming it the Dep of War, not defense.
    Maybe follow that lead if you want to be a little warcriminal imperialist bootlicker.

    Every fucking day there's some fucker online that makes me despise that cancer country even more.
    Absolute scum of the earth

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    I never specifically said "joining US military is bad", I said joining the military in general is a bad thing. And neither did I talk about nukes, which are the ultimate evil.

    I also never demanded to remove the military capabilities of one country, leaving it open for other countries to attack. I never talked about these things, about balance of power, about mutually assured destruction and all these geostrategic aspects of military logic.

    All I said was - if you are a person who joins your country's military, I despise you. Period. This is a statement I made completely disregarding all these other aspects you mention, and it is completely logically valid on its own.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Correct. You never demanded to remove the military capabilities of one country.

    I said "I wonder what would happen if we didn't have a military", and you made a comment about the little girl's backpack. I followed up with a counter argument.

    This is how conversations work.

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