▲ 502 ▼ It's rude to show AI output to people | Alex Martsinovich (distantprovince.by) submitted 8 months ago by lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 88 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] XLE@piefed.social 19 points 8 months ago (10 children) Deception is bad too, wtf are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -17 points 8 months ago (9 children) I'm pointing out that people find excuses to hate on AI regardless of what you do with it. Makes it pointless to compromise or otherwise try to satisfy them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (5 children) What value is it adding at any point? If I wanted to use chat gpt, I'd go off myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who said it needs to add value? The article claims that showing AI-generated content to others without them explicitly asking for it is inherently bad - even when you tell them it's AI. So basically: if you share it without mentioning the source you're deceiving people, and if you do mention it it's still bad... because reasons. To me that just sounds like an ideological stance more than a logical one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Value in the abstract sense of "desirable thing" not necessarily monetary. If I'm having a conversation within and ask them about a thing, I'd much rather an "I don't know" than whatever the plagiarism engine's facsimile of an opinion is. Lot of people have strong opinions about ai, many of them very bad. Because what should be a novelty or maybe a part of a more sophisticated system instead of the half assed implementation that it currently is. At the low low price of stealing from artists and fucking the environment. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago (2 children) You don't have to use it. Other people who do find value in it use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Ok. But the context is that of a conversation. Where is the value sharing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago OP provided no context whatsoever. Over the years there have been so many conversations I've been in online where someone asked something where the answer was trivially found with Google or some other search engine, but the conversation was interesting so I would Google it and provide the answer as part of my response. Is that blockworthy too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] XLE@piefed.social 18 points 8 months ago* (2 children) It does multiple bad things. Saying "aha, you used to say you hated deception, but now you hate another bad thing" is not a gotcha. I dislike many bad things, but you seem locked into defending AI at all costs. Please go back to Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) I seem to recall that the Fediverse was keen to bring in Reddit refugees. Only ones that agree with the existing preferred opinions, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago More important to have your own opinions than anything. Sounds like you are outsourcing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -17 points 8 months ago (9 children) I'm pointing out that people find excuses to hate on AI regardless of what you do with it. Makes it pointless to compromise or otherwise try to satisfy them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (5 children) What value is it adding at any point? If I wanted to use chat gpt, I'd go off myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who said it needs to add value? The article claims that showing AI-generated content to others without them explicitly asking for it is inherently bad - even when you tell them it's AI. So basically: if you share it without mentioning the source you're deceiving people, and if you do mention it it's still bad... because reasons. To me that just sounds like an ideological stance more than a logical one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Value in the abstract sense of "desirable thing" not necessarily monetary. If I'm having a conversation within and ask them about a thing, I'd much rather an "I don't know" than whatever the plagiarism engine's facsimile of an opinion is. Lot of people have strong opinions about ai, many of them very bad. Because what should be a novelty or maybe a part of a more sophisticated system instead of the half assed implementation that it currently is. At the low low price of stealing from artists and fucking the environment. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago (2 children) You don't have to use it. Other people who do find value in it use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Ok. But the context is that of a conversation. Where is the value sharing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago OP provided no context whatsoever. Over the years there have been so many conversations I've been in online where someone asked something where the answer was trivially found with Google or some other search engine, but the conversation was interesting so I would Google it and provide the answer as part of my response. Is that blockworthy too? permalink fedilink source parent [–] XLE@piefed.social 18 points 8 months ago* (2 children) It does multiple bad things. Saying "aha, you used to say you hated deception, but now you hate another bad thing" is not a gotcha. I dislike many bad things, but you seem locked into defending AI at all costs. Please go back to Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) I seem to recall that the Fediverse was keen to bring in Reddit refugees. Only ones that agree with the existing preferred opinions, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago More important to have your own opinions than anything. Sounds like you are outsourcing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (5 children) What value is it adding at any point? If I wanted to use chat gpt, I'd go off myself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who said it needs to add value? The article claims that showing AI-generated content to others without them explicitly asking for it is inherently bad - even when you tell them it's AI. So basically: if you share it without mentioning the source you're deceiving people, and if you do mention it it's still bad... because reasons. To me that just sounds like an ideological stance more than a logical one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Value in the abstract sense of "desirable thing" not necessarily monetary. If I'm having a conversation within and ask them about a thing, I'd much rather an "I don't know" than whatever the plagiarism engine's facsimile of an opinion is. Lot of people have strong opinions about ai, many of them very bad. Because what should be a novelty or maybe a part of a more sophisticated system instead of the half assed implementation that it currently is. At the low low price of stealing from artists and fucking the environment. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago (2 children) You don't have to use it. Other people who do find value in it use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Ok. But the context is that of a conversation. Where is the value sharing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago OP provided no context whatsoever. Over the years there have been so many conversations I've been in online where someone asked something where the answer was trivially found with Google or some other search engine, but the conversation was interesting so I would Google it and provide the answer as part of my response. Is that blockworthy too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk -2 points 8 months ago (1 child) Who said it needs to add value? The article claims that showing AI-generated content to others without them explicitly asking for it is inherently bad - even when you tell them it's AI. So basically: if you share it without mentioning the source you're deceiving people, and if you do mention it it's still bad... because reasons. To me that just sounds like an ideological stance more than a logical one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Value in the abstract sense of "desirable thing" not necessarily monetary. If I'm having a conversation within and ask them about a thing, I'd much rather an "I don't know" than whatever the plagiarism engine's facsimile of an opinion is. Lot of people have strong opinions about ai, many of them very bad. Because what should be a novelty or maybe a part of a more sophisticated system instead of the half assed implementation that it currently is. At the low low price of stealing from artists and fucking the environment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago Value in the abstract sense of "desirable thing" not necessarily monetary. If I'm having a conversation within and ask them about a thing, I'd much rather an "I don't know" than whatever the plagiarism engine's facsimile of an opinion is. Lot of people have strong opinions about ai, many of them very bad. Because what should be a novelty or maybe a part of a more sophisticated system instead of the half assed implementation that it currently is. At the low low price of stealing from artists and fucking the environment. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago (2 children) You don't have to use it. Other people who do find value in it use it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Ok. But the context is that of a conversation. Where is the value sharing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago OP provided no context whatsoever. Over the years there have been so many conversations I've been in online where someone asked something where the answer was trivially found with Google or some other search engine, but the conversation was interesting so I would Google it and provide the answer as part of my response. Is that blockworthy too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) Ok. But the context is that of a conversation. Where is the value sharing there? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago OP provided no context whatsoever. Over the years there have been so many conversations I've been in online where someone asked something where the answer was trivially found with Google or some other search engine, but the conversation was interesting so I would Google it and provide the answer as part of my response. Is that blockworthy too? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -7 points 8 months ago OP provided no context whatsoever. Over the years there have been so many conversations I've been in online where someone asked something where the answer was trivially found with Google or some other search engine, but the conversation was interesting so I would Google it and provide the answer as part of my response. Is that blockworthy too? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 18 points 8 months ago* (2 children) It does multiple bad things. Saying "aha, you used to say you hated deception, but now you hate another bad thing" is not a gotcha. I dislike many bad things, but you seem locked into defending AI at all costs. Please go back to Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) I seem to recall that the Fediverse was keen to bring in Reddit refugees. Only ones that agree with the existing preferred opinions, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago More important to have your own opinions than anything. Sounds like you are outsourcing. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FaceDeer@fedia.io -9 points 8 months ago (1 child) I seem to recall that the Fediverse was keen to bring in Reddit refugees. Only ones that agree with the existing preferred opinions, I guess? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago More important to have your own opinions than anything. Sounds like you are outsourcing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago More important to have your own opinions than anything. Sounds like you are outsourcing. permalink fedilink source parent